Hi,seems the forum had a lot of activity there’s 6 month but now it seems deserted.
So is there is a new build coming soon? what new features etc…
Frieds can you speak a lot about the nex things coming?
The next few releases will be minor improvements and bug fixes. I’m currently revising the code that handles VST plugin loading. The next feature update will be 3.3, and it will mostly include various UI improvements. I’ve recently purchased a 23″ touch display, so I’m experimenting with adding gesture support to Podium. That may appear in 3.3.
Thx for the clean answer:)
So, I’m in a bit of a spot here. My Podium license is up for renewal, don’t really need the Warmverb addition or any of the latest or upcoming changes, but probably would like to keep my license current and active.
Thing is, we all came together over a year ago and considered just a handful of various features we truly wanted and/or needed. They were maybe 6 or 8 in total. These were both ridiculously small features, such as a Pre-Roll/Count-In added to the metronome, to larger things, such as some users’ request for full Time Stretching and others’ (including me) requesting significantly improved routing abilities.
Insisting on a couple of measures of ‘click’ before the recording starts may seem like a silly thing, but it makes all the difference in the world between keeping Podium a modern up-to-date professional DAW or having it left in the past.
And although I fully realise that the routing features (or limitations) are hard-coded deep within Podium’s structure (meaning a much harder thing to fix, certainly), the lack of being able to route MIDI, use MIDI FX, route audio easily from any input or source to any place, and similar, makes Podium unusable for me on at least half of my projects. I’m constantly being rewarded by some red warning notice that I can’t do this or that when I work. Even dropping a few MIDI clips, each in a separate track, below the group head track containing a drum VSTi gets me a red warning on each MIDI track. Yet the whole thing works just fine when I solo and audition each clip into the drum machine. What’s far worse, however, is the red warnings at too many turns when things are simply no-go. Podium is critically limited in track flexibility. If the coding is too hard to change, could a new ‘hybrid’ track be added in to fix this? A third kind of track that will accept anything inserted on it?
Naturally, like others, I’ve tried numerous workarounds — almost always resulting in a total fail and using up far too much of my time and energy. I’ve gave up on those notions long ago. At present, I am nowadays using Podium solely for its editor screens, both MIDI and audio. They are quite good, so I sometimes work on clips from other DAW projects there before returning them.
I have always loved Podium and would have liked to keep it as my go-to or only DAW, but the limitations and (for my needs) lack of just a very few modern features have made this impossible in the last year or so. I could easily pass on a request such as time stretching — it was not even a feature I asked for, but the few other things I find indispensable. Grouping and send/returns are a start but still too restrictive. Try running a Sequencer instrument into a VSTi — you can’t have two VSTi work together. You actually get a false statement about “this track processes audio but the other does not” — not actually the real case. Too much of this going on and not enough work being done has made me back off.
On one single thing I can not agree with you: that Time Stretching is not so important! 😉 Just these days I had to create an instrumental for a song and sure enough, I needed to transpose an audio file, and to stretch it a little bit. Guess what? I had to use another DAW…
I decided to let Podium follow it’s natural development, without any new FR or comments. It is what it is and I am not gonna complain again. I decided to support Zynewave and for whatever I will get as an update and improvement I will be very grateful.
In the meanwhile I got quite familiar with an amazing piece of software, that is Magix Samplitude Music Studio, the 2013 version. I’ve got this for only 20 bucks, an absolute no brainer! I’ve got a great DAW, tons of editing possibilities, great sounds and instruments (BTW, Independence Basic – 12 gb of sound was included too) TS, Pitch correction, CD Red Book Creator, fantastic plug-ins, so many things that are simply too much to include.
I love Podium, I continue to use it, but less and less these days. I will come back to it, as it feels so at home, but I am afraid it will have to wait. Some time, I hope a short while.
Frits, I wish all the best, I will continue to support you, as I believe what you do with Podium is amazing. All in good time.
@The Telenator: Your license does not expire, so you can continue to use Podium and WarmVerb after your upgrade period expires. If at some point in the future Podium gets a feature upgrade that is useful to you, you can at any time purchase a new upgrade period.
Let me respond to your post and the Time Stretching mention first. I couldn’t agree more with you about the worthiness of this feature. However, it simply wasn’t one of my own requests for Podium — yet I did go along with it as part of our ‘list’ of features. It’s no easy add for any DAW dev, first of all. In fact, if you look at Reaper, you’ll see that they only do it by incorporating various of the elastique algorithms, which are products of zplane. I see other DAWs using same, and I have no idea what the contractual arrangements are, but it most certainly is not free. Those SDKs are all for licensed sale at zplane’s timestretch page.
Now, I do use Time Stretching when necessary, but I’ve turned to doing it mainly using Melodyne Editor 2, although it works about as well to use Reaper’s elastique choices. This was just an added benefit of buying celemony’s wonderful editor.
As for the rest, I’ll say I have had to throw my hands up and move on at this point. I’m a realist, and I have had to accept the realities of the situation. Much of this reminds me of my frustration some time ago with Cubase 4 and its horrible version 5 that came after. The very fact that they charged everyone there for version 5.5 — which was essentially only a hotfix for the mess they had created and called Cubase 5 — confirmed their arrogance toward customers to me and was part of what sent me running from that DAW platform. Conversely, what has kept me interested and dedicated to Podium for so long has been the better atmosphere here, including a distinct lack of snobbishness and the non-clique nature of Podium’s users. Also, I still believe in the great potential for Podium, if only it could be brought up to current DAW standards. Lack of a piddly little thing such as Metronome Count-In means I can’t cue musicians to a song start or any punch-ins. It’s like flying blind. Inflexibilities in routings and how instruments and FX can be run together is like being stuck in the last decade.
I didn’t mean to suggest that my edition of Podium had become un-workable since the license period had run its course. I was only saying that I like to keep current on any/all of my software licenses. At the moment, there is nothing in the most recent release that I cannot live without.
For previous feature additions, let me just say that there were indeed some that were wonderful new items. That Mackie capability is a true blessing — among other things I can hit one bank button on my keyboard/control surface and jump up 8 tracks at a time to change their settings. I’ve also noted and appreciated several of the less noticeable upgrades in the last couple of years.
I fully understand the time constraints you face when it comes to intensive changes that might be made to Podium. If it is any consolation, I am much more critical of certain DAW makers who boast large and skilled dev staffs — virtual armies of people or entire wings of buildings — yet seem almost totally incompetent when it comes to making the simplest of improvements. On a lark, and because they were practically giving the thing away, I bought Mixbus a few months ago. This Harrison Consoles ‘mixer page’ addition/add-on to the open-source Ardour DAW has proved to be a horror story I don’t even like to discuss. Similar, though, could be said of a few of the more established DAW companies, outfits that appear block-headed, obtuse or at least dreadfully slow in satisfying professional and casual users’ needs.
Whatever the case at present, I have to insist that Podium is truly the most visually attractive DAW of all-time, a true beaut of a creation, and very good and solid at the things it is built to do. I think it still boasts the best-looking and most functional of all MIDI editors out there, also, and if nothing more I still drag files into it whenever I have major editing to do, and I work on them there.
I hope I was clear about the routing issue(s). Naturally, I have been spoiled rotten through use of Reaper, but beyond that some devs have resolved track inflexibilities in their DAWs by ‘shimming’ in what is sometimes termed a ‘hybrid track’. I thought of this, short of some complete rewrite to much code. Cheers!
I understand and agree. 🙂 Just that Podium is a great app that lacks one of the most common features nowadays in a DAW. Of course it is about costs, of course there are good reasons why Podium is not quite like Cubase feature wise (eventhough I do not mind at all that) and all, but the simple fact remains: those needing a form of time-stretch will be left with no option than using a third party. Either another DAW or some sort of VST that can at least do some limited TS when needed.
Otherwise, I agree with you.
I have to say it again, there are some interesting options out there, eventhough they bring some limitations. About two month ago I bought SMS2013 for 20 bucks, with many effects, instruments and features. Very nice! And then, just two days ago, I’ve got Studio One 2 Artist for only 5 bucks!!!
But I’d like to stick with Podium only. Right now, not possible though.