blurk@kagemusha wrote:
Have you tried to roll back the driver to the previoius (final 34) version >> there is perhaps some strange quirk in the latest driver release.
No, though that thought had crossed my mind. I have to admit I’m putting my explorations of Podium to one side for the moment as I have an impending deadline anyway. I’ll try and get back to it when I have some more free time. I did get Podium working on my old machine, which has an SB Live! 5.1 Platinum super duper gee whiz how many more marketing terms can Creative fit in there card, running the kx ASIO drivers. But that’s no longer my main music making machine.
Like I said before, I’m now pretty sure it’s something in my setup on the machine with the Audiophile 2496. Driver probs is a fair bet. Why the other apps work though, I don’t know.
blurkThanks for the simple sound suggestion. But that still doesn’t work for me.
I’m becoming convinced that the problem is outside of Podium, and something peculiar in my own setup here. I bet if you do find someone else with a Audiophile 2496 card it’ll be working fine.
blurk@Zynewave wrote:
I have contacted one of the Podium beta testers who uses a Audiophile 2496 card, and asked if he is experiencing any problems. I’ll report back when I know more.
Thank you. Maybe I should mention that I’m running on Windows 2000 SP4 and using the May 17, 2004 drivers from M Audio?
Podium only supports the use of one sound card, so the
implies the interface you have selected in the interfaces dialog. … Using the setting signifies that you can open the project on another machine with a different sound card, and the project will then use that sound card.
OK, that’s reasonable. Though I think a useful (far) future enhancement would be multiple sound card support, but of course this is nowhere near an essential requirement.
The source and target channel numbers are indeed the channels on your audio interface. If you have selected
configuration and set the start channel to 3, then the mapping will route stereo audio to channels 3/4.
That’s good to have clarified. I think someone else suggested it would be more user-friendly to name the outputs here so that they are consistent with the active channels you see in the MIDI/Audio Interfaces dialog. I think doing this would save a lot of confusion.
@kagemusha wrote:
I don’t know if I understood you right but I can see all kinds of modes under “Asio interface” like duplex, multimedia and also M-Audio asio
I only see two entries under “ASIO interface”:
Have you tried with a fresh new project, not with the demo project (…)
I tried it all again following these instructions, and no I still don’t get any sound. I’m willing to entertain the notion that I’ve misconfigured the M-Audio ASIO driver somehow, but in the monitor mixer view of the M Audio Delta Control Panel (i.e. completely outside the Podium app), none of the level meters light up, unlike what happens with other audio apps. So, I think I haven’t stuffed up the ASIO driver configuration (but I can’t be sure), and it looks like I’ve set up Podium the same way as you have suggested. I don’t know what else I can try.
blurkThank you for your response. I am glad that you treated it in the spirit in which it was intended, that is potentially harsh criticism but given because I would like your product to succeed. Also, you have reassured me quite a bit. Mind you, I am still having problems getting a sound out, but I will create a new thread about this.
blurkI agree that pricing Podium is going to be quite tricky. On the one hand it is clear that years of development effort have already gone into it. On the other hand, it doesn’t yet appear to be a completely (how can I put this without being insulting or offensive?) professional package (forgive me).
I would expect at the very least a comprehensive help file included in the installer. It’s not really acceptable for the documentation to only be available online, and that is still incomplete. I know I’m being harsh, but charging more than just a nominal amount gives rise to certain expectations. Also, there should be at least one demo project that allows users to make a sound without requiring a bunch of additional plugins, even if they are free. It can be short, but just something that can be used to verify the basic setup is correct.
That said, I understand that further development and polishing has to be funded somehow. It would help if the web pages gave some sort of indication of the license agreement. Many other shareware products indicate whether the license fee is for the current version only, or minor upgrades, or (the products I like best) perpetual licenses. If the license is not perpetual, some indication of future upgrade prices would be good.
When I first read about Podium, I was very impressed with the ideas behind it and the way all the elements are hierarchically organised. I would so very much like to like this product. But it’s taken me about half an hour to figure out how to insert a pre-existing sound file into a track (all the documentation/tutorials seem to be either about recording audio into tracks or using soft synths). Inserting a sound file into the project was easy enough, but getting into the track is another matter. I still haven’t got a sound out of it yet, so I’ll have to study the online docs/videos again. (Most other products I’ve tried this has been made as easy as possible.)
Sorry this has turned into a bit of a whinge. But I’ve used a wide variety of audio software, so I’m not a complete newbie. However, so far Podium has been quite opaque, though obviously powerful. You have a dilemma here. It is too sophisticated to undercharge for it, but at the moment it is difficult for me to justify the $90.