ConquistadorPart 1
A new Track type – Cell / Pod Track
As the signal flow in Podium goes up, the idea with this new track is to create your ideas inside it or multiple Cell/ Pod tracks and then record those tracks to other tracks higher in the signal chain so there is a logical visual work flow. A simple two part process – Create and then bounce / arrange.
Recording
Audio or MIDI recording is possible. When recording to this track type you click on the track (or go to its properties) to select how long you want the track to record for… 1bar, 2 bars e.t.c Start recording and Podium will then create an event that matches the length you specified.
Playback
Each clip or event on this track type can be triggered by simply clicking on it or on a strip just above the clip (to differentiate it from other clips if need be perhaps the “Show Sequence Event Header” command can be modified for this). The clip will keep playing / looping / repeating until you click on it again. One should be able to set how to trigger it as well for instance the next 1/4, 1/2, bar e.t.c
Playback of the song will of course be in sync with the clip and vice versa.
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Could you be specific about which of my suggestions are dizzying? The shortcuts I suggested, and that now are available in beta1, are general slide and zoom shortcuts that complement the existing mouse behaviour. They are not linked to pattern building as such. I find them useful when navigating through a sequence in the piano-roll for example.
If that is the only purpose for them then I really have no problem with them at all. 🙂 (I just have no use for them personally but that does not mean other users cannot make use of them or find them very useful).
But you made a specific reference here to Electronic Music…
“While working this out, I was considering electronica music genres, where you often construct the song by laying out repeated patterns, with fill patterns injected at various places. With these new key shortcuts, users that work in this genre can quickly lay out the foundation of the entire song using only the keyboard.”
That is what I found dizzying as the Blocks idea, Session view (Live) e.t.c is a much easier and intuitive way of working with repeated patterns by far. Easily the reason why Live is so popular. There are a huge number, surely the greatest concentration of electronic Music/ Dance/ House/ Minimal House/ IDM e.t.c producers use Live and with good reason. Keybaords shortcuts for that…? That is the long way around.
Section arranging is another story. The things I suggested in this topic, is more related to arranging the smaller components that would be part of a larger section.
Its funny you should say this because I don’t think “arranging smaller components that would be part of a larger section” should be a separate process or different from “laying out repeated patterns”. What you are suggesting sounds like keybopard shotcuts for working with repeated patterns and Markers for working with sections?
Did you read the thoughts I had about section/pattern editing in the topic below? http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2294
It seems like tumults FR is a bit different to the blocks idea or the core reason behind Live Session view.
Either way I have seen the suggestions you made there and the Marker idea I think could work as an additional way to work with smaller parts / events in Podium but the timeline could get very busy with different types of markers all over the place to manage. You could have 3 markers between Chorus and Break for instance so in a full song especially a 4 -6 minute+ electronic house or dance track the number of markers used could be massive. No need for that…why not try something like this…
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Is this all too much?
Phew getting dizzy! 😯 I applaud your efforts to take this one on 🙂 but…that is way too much to remember or think about for a simple way to come up with some variation in a Song.
It sounds like your trying to achieve this kind of simple functionality with “Blocks” the hard way with shortcuts and various commands in Podium IMO.
Really Frits all the shortcuts and commands are waaaay to much for what you are trying to achieve. Far too much compexity IMO. 🙁 The way “Blocks” are presented in the video shows just how easy it can and should be..to do this….
” you often construct the song by laying out repeated patterns, with fill patterns injected at various places.”
Some kind of Podium version of “Blocks” would be much easier and intuitive to use IMO.
By the way I thought that radial menu in another thread was incredible. Hope to see that again at some point.
Conquistador@GeorgK wrote:
Hi guys,
many thanks for your contributions.
I am on XP/32bit. My IndeFX is the current version 2.5.4.
@Conquistador:
Did the renaming affect the registration? YT is a little bit sparse on registrations (3x); I know one could always ASK them for additional ones, but for now I prefer not to waste them…Georg
Hi GeorgeK,
The renaming did not affect registration or activation AFAICT. I was a bit concerned it might. I initially installed the x64 version and then registered and activated the plugin. I then installed the x86 version but the registration and activation appears to be intact. I just avoided the root folder installation a second time.
The YT Independence FX plugin is a nice fit for Podium usage (coming from another FireSale buyer). 😉
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Thanks. As I suspected, these are all surround configurations. Apparently the plugin does not expose itself as a mono/stereo effect. Other hosts maybe just assumes all plugins support mono/stereo. In Podium I rely on the channel configurations reported by the plugin, so that you can have a true surround only plugin not appearing as a non-functional stereo mapping.
Thanks for clarifying. 🙂
Does the FX plugin actually support surround sound?
Unless I am reading this incorrectly or have missed some detail somewhere it does look like the FX plugin supports surround sound here…
“support of surround formats up to 8.1 with automatic surround channel recognition
independent surround format selection for input and output”
ConquistadorFor some reason I had to rename the Independence Fx.dll before Podium could scan it correctly. The VSTi was fine. I thought maybe a space in the name might be an issue.
The Mappings for the FX.dll look like this in Podium…
ConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorConquistadorNo issues here with Podium on an i7 running Windows 7 x64. 😉
ConquistadorFantastic! Thanks! 🙂