@acousmod wrote:
But what do you think about an option in the preferences to automatically select the track when selecting a clip ?
Brilliant idea.
The way it is done in Tracktion, Vegas or Reaper seems to me extremely clever.
You click on a clip to select it (the track is automaticaly selected) and copy it :
– if you don’t select a track or click somewhere, the clip is pasted after the first one (in Tracktion) or at the cursor position on the same track and then after the previous one (in the others)
– if you select a track, the clip is pasted on this track at the cursor position
– if you click somewhere in the track area the clip is pasted at this position on the corresponding track.
It is hard to make more intuitive to use, and it works the same for multiple selection.
Very nice. 8)
@Zynewave wrote:
It’s not a problem specific to Podium. How would you prevent the need for selecting a track, either when you copy/paste from track to track or time to time?
Not something I have looked into at development level. So really I cannot offer suggestions as to how it might be possible sorry, I was just curious.
There’s a chance that some will find this a change to the worse. That’s why I would like to hear user opinions.
Yes by all means lets get more user opinions but why make it a wholesale change for all anyway? Making it optional would please those who like it as it is and those who want the change.
Optional features provide more flexibility anyway. The more powerful hosts become, the more options they have. Not everything must be optional of course, but if some disagree why not just make it optional for those who do not like it?
It is inevitable that as Podium’s feature set increases Podium users will not agree on certain features. Nothing wrong with that. We are all different and will likely have different work methods. But like you, I am certainly interested in other opinions as well, why not?
To reiterate: If I change it to the way acousmod describes, then you have to select the very first track that has any selected events on it, to paste events to another time location on the same tracks.
Thanks for trying to make 100% sure we are clear on the matter before any possible steps are taken. I certainly do not want you to start work on something that is not actually exactly as suggested or agreed on.
You said “the very first track” I assume you mean *any* track in a project that a user wants to use to copy events to within the same pre selected / highlighted track?
It’s just the way you said it “first track” that sounds like having to select the first track in any arrangement which would not be desirable at all.
*Any* track in an arrangement that a user has events on (track 1, 27 or 50), but wants copies of those events on the same track is how I think you are saying it will now work. but with a user pre selection / highlight of the track…first? In this case track 1, 27 or 50, effectively any track in an arrangement, correct?
@Zynewave wrote:
I activated SpamAssassin last night after I got the 1000 spam emails. I’m still getting the emails, but at least now I can sort them from the regular emails and delete them in a single action.
Ok…good for you then! Light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully the hassle and time wasted will be reduced now. I hope it goes well. π
@Zynewave wrote:
The “then this” quote is the scenario that will happen if I change the paste mechanism so that pasting from track to track is easier. It’s either one or the other type of paste (track to track, or time to time) that will suffer. That’s why I asked which type of paste you most often perform.
Ok…thanks for clarifying that. π
However why must we choose between the two?
Is this because of the way Podium is set up, wired or developed?
If I must choose then I would 100% go with acousmods suggestions as the necessity to select a track first, to ensure copying and pasting works properly on the same track, is nothing compared to the current problem of pasting to different tracks especially in very busy projects.
Please if possible take onboard Acousmods ideas for copying and pasting to different tracks and if it really just cannot be avoided then as a result, I don’t mind having to select a track first, to copy events to the same track.
I just see a huge improvement in the copy and pasting process to different tracks with Acousmods ideas. They will really make a massive difference IMO. π
@Zynewave wrote:
I’m using SpamAssassin, which is installed by my host provider on the server. This adds a spam notification in the subject (e.g. “**SPAM**”) to all suspected spam emails so that I can filter them in my email client. If the problem persists I can also activate automatic deletion of the spam emails at the server, so that I won’t receive them at all.
Did you use SpamAssasin before today or is this something you have just started using? I am just curious as of course if it is not working for you then why not try something else?
If you mean you are now just starting to use Spam Assasin then hopefully that will help eradicate or at least reduce the problem for you. π
@Zynewave wrote:
Which of these two types of copy/paste are you most frequently using: Pasting to different tracks, or pasting to another time position on the same track?
I would say I use both methods pretty much equally.
For instance there are many times when I need to paste to the same track and many situations that require pasting to a different track.
If you want to paste events to another time position on the same tracks, then you don’t need to worry with selecting the track.
Correct, but that is not the problem.
But if you want to paste to different tracks, then you need to select the first track, copy, select the target track, and paste.
That is the problem. You must first select a track (with the events to be copied) every time *then* copy the event you want to paste to a different track.
The logical way would be to :
– click on a clip (or a selection) to select it (them)
– copy
– click on a track
– paste : the clip is pasted on this track at the cursor position.
If there was more than one clip selected, they are pasted in the relative position of the first one, if they were on several tracks they are pasted in the following tracks and new tracks are automatically created if they don’t exist.If this approach is used, then the track selection problem is the other way around. Copying to different tracks will be simpler.
Much simpler. I see no problems with this at all.
But when you want to copy/paste to a different time position you then have to select the first track that has any selected events. Otherwise the events will not be pasted on the same tracks they were copied from.
“Copy and paste to a different time position”…are you talking about copying from and pasting to the same track here?
If so I don’t understand…
First you said this
“If you want to paste events to another time position on the same tracks, then you don’t need to worry with selecting the track”.
then this….
“But when you want to copy/paste to a different time position you then have to select the first track that has any selected events. Otherwise the events will not be pasted on the same tracks they were copied from”.
Please clarify?!?
@Zynewave wrote:
After googling this appears to be a common problem, and there apparently is nothing to do about it.
There may be something you can do to deal with the problem…
I assume it’s just a bot that has stumbled upon the zynewave.com domain.
Most likely.
What a stupid waste of time and computing power.
Yes. It is an incredible waste of time.
I have lost patience with spam as well, I get about 10 -30 spam emails a day. Not nearly as much as you, but 1 spam email is too many.
Some suggestionsβ¦
…after reading your comments I thought it is probably time for me to look into a dedicated spam filter than can work with any email client not just Outlook or Outlook express. I have used ZoneAlarm (pretty good spam, firewall, virus scanner in one, triple layer) but it’s spam filter only works with Outlook express and Outlook). I use Thunderbird now.
I think a single dedicated spam filter is probably better.
Some interesting tips to avoid spam.
http://www.techsoup.org/learningcenter/internet/page4782.cfm
The link above has some helpful tips that should help you tackle this problem.
Software:
1.Mailwasher
This could be an ideal solution possibly the best option (cheap as well)
http://www.mailwasher.net/
2.Choicemail
Another very popular solution free and commercial version available
http://www.download.com/3000-2382-10434830.html
3. Spamfighter.
If you use Outlook or Outlook express this may be another highly effective option. It may even be worth switching to Outlook express even if you do not use it just to have this software tackle your spam problems.
Another option worth a look.
http://www.spamjab.com/index.shtml
I think once you have gone through all the options here you really should have less of a problem. Some of the options bounce back your address to spam senders giving them the impression you email is no longer active.
Some of the solutions I have listed send a verification email (only once) to a sender for verification, so for instance someone interested in registering as forum member would never actually get registered if they do not reply to that verification message.
When you can, I think it is well worth your time to look into each of the suggestions above. They all do the same thing but you might prefer one over another for your own reasons.
I hope that helps. π
Exactly! β‘
Your suggestions are precisely the way it should work.
Your suggestions for single and multiple clips would work extremely well, far better than the current approach.
I appreciate Frits you may very well have already considered an improvement to the copy and paste functionality between tracks in Podium, but in any case please consider the suggestions made in this thread.
Thanks. π
@pj geerlings wrote:
If so, how is it working for you?
I did use MCE some time ago and cannot remember having any issues with Podium. It has always been rock solid as far as reliability is concerned. Of course that was on my system so I cannot speak for others so YMMV but I had no issues running Podium on MCE. π
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@Zynewave wrote:
It should be easy to add a mute feature for individual sequence or sound events. There could be a “Mute Events” command in the edit menu and the event context menu.
Yes that sounds good. Adding a Mute Event/s option to the already Cut, Copy and Delete Event right click options for events, would make the mute option very easy to access at Event /clip level.
The sequence event would be drawn in the greyed out mode similar to events on a muted track, and possible an “M” icon next to the name to indicate the event is muted.
Another very good idea. I think the “M” icon would be a very good indicator as there could be a number of clips muted in a project at the same time.
Muting individual note events is another matter I think. Are there anyone (other than Max) that would find this useful?
Yes. 8)
There are many times where I would definitely prefer to just mute a note to see how a midi sequence will sound without it, instead of deleting it. This is a very useful idea IMO. The editing of drums, keys e.t.c would all benefit from a note mute feature IMO.
I suppose the muted note could be grayed out both in a drum grid (when editing drums) and in the sequence editors Piano roll if editing a piano sequence for example.
It will just offer more creative possibilities in Podum Frits. Real time hosts, Live, Phrazor e.t.c offer many creative features. Podiums real time engine would be ideal for an event and midi note mute feature. IMHO.:wink:
@soundquist wrote:
Certainly. For me personally this is simply a quick way of trying out different arrangements of a song. (What happens if I lift the drums on this part? Or the bass? or both? No, maybe not… etc)
This probably will be at a point when the song has advanced from the first idea or sketch, so I might have notes or events I may want to re-use later in some other part, so I want to sort of keep them. I also might want to change my mind later.
Absolutely. My thoughts exactly.
@Zynewave wrote:
I’ve now got the fades working. After some tests I’m having doubts on how best to store the fade in/out durations. Currently they are locked to the arrangement timeline. Thus if you change the arrangement tempo, or time-stretch a sound event (not yet implemented), the fade in/out positions will move in relation to the actual waveform. Would it be better to have the fade in/out positions lock to the actual waveform data?
Hmmm based on your description of potential side effects or problems with the ‘locked to time line’ approach I would think having the fade in/out positions lock to the actual wave form data would be a better choice.
@Zynewave wrote:
Of course I intend to contact other magazines to try similar arrangements, but the Beat cooperation will give me a sense of what to expect from such a promotion. Depending on the sales generated, perhaps creating a feature-limited version is better than giving away a full version. Or setting up upgrade rebates for the magazine readers, etc.
π I thought so. Something just did not add up somewhere. Thanks for clarifying that.
I think both of your suggestions for similar future magazine deals would work. Perhaps choosing the one that is easiest for you to manage would be the best choice. π
@Zynewave wrote:
The outcome of this whole experience/experiment will determine whether I should try something similar with other magazines.
A wait and see approach makes absolute sense however…:wink:
I think if another opportunity should arise with another magazine, to give a free copy away but offer an upgrade path to newer Podium versions, I would take it up anyway and quickly.
Unless you are sitting on a huge marketing budget Frits or are aware of another potentially lucrative marketing opportunity, then whether 1 or 1000 new Podium users arrive as a result of the Beat magazine deal (Podianer did really well), I would still take any additional magazine offer so that Podium can reach more people.
I think even thinking of not trying something similar depending on the results with Beat is a bit strange to me. What other idea or avenues do you have in mind that can reach that many of your target market for free?
All products in a given market are available to a potential customer but marketing a product places an available product in front of a potential customer. The free version of Podium in Beat does the latter.
Again unless you have a very large marketing budget, free copies of Podium given away (with an upgrade path) on magazines in future that are interested in Podium, is surely not a possibility but an extremely timely opportunity to be snapped up immediately….whatever the success rate of this deal with Beat.
Compared to other products there are really so few users of Podium, but it could be so different.
I think the developer of the Ps1 synth said something which astounded me. He said something along the lines of having to drop the price because so few people had heard of his product. This was reviewed in at least 2 magazines and it’s creator is very active on KVR. I was baffled by his comment.
Of course it was because of a lack of *enough* marketing. He just did not have the Cakewalk or Steinberg sized budgets for marketing but I was astounded that many had not heard of his synth.
Competition is stiff, please whatever the result of Beat, don’t turn down similar opportunities in future especially when there is really no better way to reach your ideal target market for nothing. Of course the decision is yours but ?!?!?!?
@Podianer wrote:
I think, there are many people reading Beat that are mostly using Loops. So there will be many requests for Timestretch, I think.
For other people who are tired of using Cubase or Sonar, Podium will be a perfect alternative. I hope Frits will sell a LOT of new licences!! Laughing
Great initiative Podianer it does look very promising. Podium really should have had a much higher number of users by now. Your efforts hopefully will go some way to address the balance. Well done. π
No doubt Frits and all the rest of us are eagerly anticipating the results π