swayzakswayzakswayzakswayzak@Zynewave wrote:
Yes, easily. I just wanted to record them in the sequencer (like I can do in Cubase).
Would this be possible in Podium – Cubase records them as automation events which can be edited in the sysex editor.
It would be very desirable (at least for a rampant sw1000 / plg user !) because so many of the cards’ deep parameters are only available through sysex.
If you are recording a MIDI input onto a track with one of the SW1000 mappings, then Podium will try to match any incoming MIDI CC, NRPN, SysEx etc. to the parameter objects defined for the SW1000. If a matching parameter is found, then a track will be created with this parameter, and curve sequences will be recorded. If the parameter properties specifies that the parameter should not be recorded as curve sequences, then single parameter events are created on a new track. If a SysEx message is received that was not matched to a parameter, then single stream events will be created on a new track.
So if I want to record sysex stuff live into Podium AND hear it’s effects on the plg cards at the same time, then I have to route the output of the standalone editor to both the plg and Podium simultaneously ?
swayzak@Zynewave wrote:
Incidently, I’ve noticed that scrolling in the browser of the project window (on left side) is sometimes a bit erratic – the scroll flickers / oscillates and the list flicks back to the top.
Could you describe how you provoke this behaviour. Are you dragging the slider, clicking the arrow buttons, pressing arrow keys or using mousewheel?
Dragging the slider – it seems as though the slider “wants” to spring back. Weird….
PS The “cheque is in the post”… 😉
swayzak@Zynewave wrote:
Anyway, I have the Yamaha standalone AN editor, which outputs sysex to Yoke 1 (and this is confirmed at the midi out monitor of Midi Ox). This should therefore presumably enter Podium and be passed to the plugstation ?
It is received by Podium, and can be recorded, but it is not echoed thru to the output device. I just revisited my code, and found this comment:
If an instrument is set to ‘local off’ this does not include sysex parameter changes and dumps. Echoing back sysex parameters/dumps will yield unexepected behaviour on the instrument.
I remember trying it with my AN1x, set to local off. I created a MIDI input mapping for the AN1x, which I could use to play softsynths but also play the AN1x when assigned to a track with the AN1x output mapping. The problem was that, even though the device was set to local off, adjusting some parameters with the dials on the front panel would both change the parameter on the synth and send out SysEx. When Podium receives these messages, it would send them back causing the parameter to flicker on the AN1x. I even managed to crash the AN1x in this way. So that is why I disabled SysEx thru. Are there any other way you can set up your MIDI routings so that the AN editor sends directly to the card?
Yes, easily. I just wanted to record them in the sequencer (like I can do in Cubase).
Would this be possible in Podium – Cubase records them as automation events which can be edited in the sysex editor.
It would be very desirable (at least for a rampant sw1000 / plg user !) because so many of the cards’ deep parameters are only available through sysex.
swayzak@Zynewave wrote:
Hi Jean-Marc,
There is no point for me to keep adding features, if the features are not documented anywhere. Otherwise no one will ever know what the potential of Podium is.
Frits
That never stopped Imageline 😆
swayzak@kingtubby wrote:
@swayzak wrote:
Actually is there a midi activity light in Podium because I couldn’t see it ? If not it would be very useful – even better if it differentiated between message type !
There is a rectangular indicator at the top-right next to the cpu meter, split diagonally – upper-left shows incoming midi, lower-right shows outgoing.
Mart
Thanks – but I can’t even see the cpu meter 😳
Better check that out hadn’t I !
I’m quite excited about this software – just need to get a bit more comfortable with it before taking the plunge 🙂
swayzakI also tried some sysex but couldn’t get Podium to pass the messages.
Actually is there a midi activity light in Podium because I couldn’t see it ? If not it would be very useful – even better if it differentiated between message type !
Anyway, I have the Yamaha standalone AN editor, which outputs sysex to Yoke 1 (and this is confirmed at the midi out monitor of Midi Ox). This should therefore presumably enter Podium and be passed to the plugstation ?
I tried to make sure that the Yoke 1 input is mapped to Yoke 4 output in Podium (the node which passes on all midi data to the plugstation via sw1000 midi out) and allowing sysex.
But nothing emerges from Podium….
swayzak@Zynewave wrote:
Are you referring to the track inspector listboxes inside the arrangement editor?
The browser for selecting “input”, “map”, “preset” and “parameter” for a track.
Update – yes, the list box
If you could email me your project file, I’ll check how you have set up your mappings.
Will do.
swayzakthanks
You can import Cubase patch scripts. What are Reg’s scripts? I assume you have tried the SW1000 definition in the Podium library? You would only need scripts for the additional plug cards.
Some bloke called Reg wrote scripts for sw1000 and some plg cards. I’ve imported them as Devices and they work fine !
Podium can’t do this currently. This has been requested by others, and it is on the plan. For now, either use MIDI channel change on your controller to swap between your MIDI input mappings, or just move the MIDI input mapping by dragging it from track to track.
Cool – look forward to it.
Incidently, I’ve noticed that scrolling in the browser of the project window (on left side) is sometimes a bit erratic – the scroll flickers / oscillates and the list flicks back to the top.
Also, several times when trying to place my Midi Yoke 1 as the midi input for a track, what is listed in the browser varies.
Sometimes it lists 2 x 16 channels for Yoke 1 (32 inputs), other times I just get a single Yoke 1 port. Not sure what this means – am I setting the Midi inputs/outputs up correctly ?
NB. Yoke 1 has 5 inputs combining into it (RME HDSP Midi In 1 & 2, sw1000 Midi In, MPU401 Midi In and Yoke 2). This enables me (in Cubase) to have all my midi inputs combined into a single “node” and Cubase then channelises it whatever midi track has focus)
swayzakRight – beginning to get a feel for this now. As I said, takes a bit of getting used to after Cubase, FLS etc. ❗
Fiddled about with a few bars of recording tonight – even managed to map the output to my DX plg card on the plugstation & recorded some CC 74 filter sweeping 🙂
One that puzzled me – after letting the sequencer cursor run on for a bit after the recorded bars have finished (whilst playing back) I am trying to reset the cursor position back to the song beginning.
Pressed space bar twice (and num zero twice as well) – cursor just stops then starts again. Doesn’t return to the beginning of the song. Have I missed something ?
Also Zynewave, can I import Reg’s Cubase midi patch scripts for the sw1000, AN150, DX150, PF150 and VL150 ?
Will Podium “channelise” midi like Cubase does ?
e.g. in Cubase, you just select the midi track for focus and it doesn’t matter what midi channel you send to the track with, it is automatically set to the channel indicated by the sequencer track.
It’s just a bit of a culture shock having to keep changing the midi channels of my various midi controllers everytime I do stuff on a different tracks in the sequencer.
swayzak
swayzakthanks again
Trying the demo now – nice GUI.
However, being used to Cubase, FLS and Reason, I’m not finding the interface very intuitive !
Tried to start a simple project but can’t seem to set the audio properly to get a sound with a VSTi.
Keep getting:
“Error: The map produces audio but there is no parent track mapping that handles the audio”
Also Podium crashes when searching VSTi folder when it gets to M42 plugin (Wavelab also has problems with this, specifically with the associated sf2 file). I’m going to email Algo about it.
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swayzakThanks
Good question. I think the MIDI support in Podium is pretty strong, but Podium does not have the plethora of alternative editing possibilites that Cubase may have. If you’re lucky, then Podium may have just what you want.
Does Podium aspire eventually to rival Cubase in the Midi editing department ?
Would it be easy to setup device definitions for my plugstation plg cards (AN-150, DX-150, PF-150 and VL-150) ?