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ZynewaveKeymasterI’ll check it out. I have a license for eXT.
Are you using eXT: Beta 27-feb-06 ?
ZynewaveKeymaster@kingtubby wrote:
Just discovered that I can drop a wave file on top of a midi sequence playing a vsti (on the same track) and they both play back. Should this be possible? It doesn’t seem like it should be..
Mart.
This behaviour is a consequence of how the hierarchic engine works. If the plugin mapping accepts audio input, then the audio will be routed into the plugin, otherwise it is routed upwards in the hierarchy. Some VSTi’s support audio input, which is why you may see that some synths will ‘consume’ the audio. Of course it is recommended to put the audio on a separate subtrack, to avoid getting a mess of overlapping sound and sequence events on the same track.
April 17, 2006 at 13:33 in reply to: Control of Podium and Plug-ins parameter via external Midi #6563ZynewaveKeymasterWill Podium ever have right-click Midi Learn for quick on-the-fly parameter control (e.g. of VSTi parameters) ?
That’s how I imagine that it would be implemented. The plugin parameter object would then both be configured with a VST parameter number and a MIDI controller.
April 16, 2006 at 09:17 in reply to: Control of Podium and Plug-ins parameter via external Midi #6554ZynewaveKeymasterHi,
Things like audio event fade-in/out, disk-streaming optimization, and various other usability features are higher on the list. Too early to set a deadline on this feature.
ZynewaveKeymasterDo you think about something that could be done in the plugins to limit or avoid this ?
I don’t have any experience with design in SynthEdit, so I don’t have any tips for that.
ZynewaveKeymasterAudioMulch, Bidule, EnergyXT, Nuendo, Tracktion.
I don’t know how AudioMulch, Bidule and Nuendo handles multiprocessing. Tracktion does not support multiprocessing of plugins. The audio thread runs on a single CPU, so plugins will never be processed in parallel. The other CPU will be used for the GUI and possibly disk access etc. Based on the last description I read about EnergyXT, you have to select which CPU core a particular plugin should use. So you need to set up two instances of the plugin and configure them for different CPU cores.
The crash problem occurs when multiple CPUs simultaneously calls the processing for multiple instances of a plugin. Some plugins stores data in global memory that are shared between instances of a plugin. In single CPU execution this is not a problem because one plugin instance completes its processing before the next start. With multiple CPUs calling the same code, there can be conflicts when accessing the global data.
Furthermore for two instances to be processed simultaneously they have to be routed in a way where they both can process input simultaneously. The processing of other plugins can also influence the timing of the simultaneous processing, so that is why the crashes may appear random.
ZynewaveKeymasterI don’t know of any such utilities, sorry.
April 15, 2006 at 11:16 in reply to: Restricted to Podium license ownersZynewaveKeymasterThis content is restricted to Podium license owners.ZynewaveKeymasterThere is certainly something between Synthedit and Podium, since absolutely no other host has this problem, but I have not discovered any constant cause
Which other hosts have you tried that support multiprocessing? The problem I mentioned with Lallapallooza will only occur if the host runs multiple instances of the plugin on different CPUs.
ZynewaveKeymasterI would like to see the option of seeing all Vsti parameters, presets etc. spread out along the bottom where the mixer is.
Do you mean a popup list menu when clicking on the preset or param rows?
ZynewaveKeymasterI’ve now also tried multiple instances of Hydratone, in case it was related to multiprocessing. Still no crash.
but some of my plugins (SpatPod for example) give exactly the same problem since a few months on my P4HT.
They worked perfectly before (I can’t tell a date, perhaps with the 1.40 version ?) and have no problem on my laptop (Centrino) with the same versions of Podium.
If I limit Podium to one “processor” on the P4HT I can generally use the plugs.I know that e.g. the Lallapallooza plugin (Synthedit creation) used in the Freebees project will crash easily if more than one instance is used with multiprocessing. That’s one of the reasons why I have it as high priority to create alternative demo projects with Zynewave plugins. It may be a problem with Synthedit (Lallapallooza is using a very old Synthedit version), or it may be something in the plugin schematic that causes the crash.
The message is often : “Cannot store preset data from plugin. The reported size of 0 Mb is beyond the limit allowed in Podium” (sometimes other values like 6 Mb or 8 Mb).
This message typically occurs after the plugin has crashed, which is why Podium cannot retrieve the presets.
April 14, 2006 at 11:36 in reply to: Restricted to Podium license ownersZynewaveKeymasterThis content is restricted to Podium license owners.April 14, 2006 at 10:13 in reply to: Restricted to Podium license ownersZynewaveKeymasterThis content is restricted to Podium license owners.ZynewaveKeymasterI downloaded both the Pluggo runtime and Hydratone. Installed Pluggo in my Vstplugins folder and installed Hydratone inside the ‘VstpluginsPluggo runtime’ folder, as instructed. Hydratone works fine. I cannot get it to crash.
April 13, 2006 at 22:07 in reply to: Restricted to Podium license ownersZynewaveKeymasterThis content is restricted to Podium license owners.