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Zynewave@Phoenix wrote:
You can create effect tracks in compact…
But if you switch to expanded, you can not create them. But if you click on the child of the fx track, you can delete it.
Is this intentional?
The “New Effect Track” is a menu I created for the compact mode. The expanded mode is still unmodified compared to previous Podium releases. When I’ve completed the compact mode, I’ll probably modify the expanded track menu commands so they match the compact mode menus.
Zynewave@Igr0 wrote:
One question – How to hide master track from tracks view.(but all other tracks must stay visible)
Currently you can do it with the “Hide Track Lane” track menu option on the master track. To show the master track again you need to right click the topmost master track in the inspector group panel and clear the “Hide Track Lane” option. I’m actually planning on removing the possibility to hide track lanes because it can create confusion. Why do you want to hide the master track?
Zynewave@estwing wrote:
so i’m not sure about your idea to change the inspector as mentioned in page 3 of this thread; and the compact mode in 195 gives fast access to busses,effect routings etc but you still need the inspector for the input mappings; midi and audio.
If this is the post you refer to:
@Zynewave wrote:
Since I first designed the track inspector years ago as a panel inside the tracks region, the inspector has grown in size with the addition of embedded plugin editors and the group panel. I’m considering moving the inspector out of the tracks region and instead embed it as a panel at the left edge of the browser window, similar to the “List” panel at the right edge. Imagine there is an “Inspector” tab at the top left corner, just before the project tab. This has the advantage that the inspector can be the full height of the window, and showing the mixer will not reduce the height.
What I suggest here does not change the functionality of the track inspector. It’s just an idea for moving the placement of the inspector from inside the tracks region to the left edge of the editor window. It will allow the inspector to use the full height of the screen.
acousmodI’m actually planning on removing the possibility to hide track lanes because it can create confusion.
I don’t understand : ot xill be nore more possible to hide / a track lane ?
Why do you want to hide the master track?
I do it to keep some place since it has no use for me until the final bounce.
Igr0Why do you want to hide the master track?
I do it to keep some place since it has no use for me until the final bounce.[/quote]
Right!
ZynewaveI don’t understand : ot xill be nore more possible to hide / a track lane ?
As discussed on page 9 of this topic, I am considering removing the option from the track menu and let Podium automatically handle the hiding of effects tracks (only in compact mode). Since my aim with compact mode is simplicity, I was afraid that the option may cause confusion. If a user accidentally hides e.g. the master track, it could be hard to find that you need use the menu in the group panel to show the lane again. I can expect a lot of support questions on that issue. If you want to reduce the space occupied by the master track, isn’t it sufficient to minimize the master track lane?
Robert Randolph@Zynewave wrote:
I don’t understand : ot xill be nore more possible to hide / a track lane ?
As discussed on page 9 of this topic, I am considering removing the option from the track menu and let Podium automatically handle the hiding of effects tracks (only in compact mode). Since my aim with compact mode is simplicity, I was afraid that the option may cause confusion. If a user accidentally hides e.g. the master track, it could be hard to find that you need use the menu in the group panel to show the lane again. I can expect a lot of support questions on that issue. If you want to reduce the space occupied by the master track, isn’t it sufficient to minimize the master track lane?
Hiding of effect track lanes would make most sense considering how it’s displayed. Despite logically being a parent track, in compact mode it is dispayed inside the effected track.
That’s confusing enough as it is, but when you hide and un-hide it, it becomes a bit more confusing in a large project.
PodianerAs discussed on page 9 of this topic, I am considering removing the option from the track menu and let Podium automatically handle the hiding of effects tracks (only in compact mode).
Frits? Would that be the case for all kinds of tracks? I find it quite useful to hide a bounce track at the top of a FX-chain, when I am not in need of it. Due to the high amount of flexibility these changes bring to Podium, and on the same hand also problems of understanding the hierarchy for new users, I would suggest making this an option, but enabled by default. So new users won’t be irritated and users like me, who love to decide by themselves which track should be visible or not, can have their ultimate flexible way of working with tracks.. I must admit, I was first irritated too by the fact that fx tracks are shown “inside” the track they belong to. This contradicts with the paradigm of signal flow. But this is a very powerful way to work with fx-chains, as I soon realized. It is so fast now to create fx tracks and compared to other hosts, it seems to be the most powerful gui imo.
I know having an option for everything doesn’t contribute to a “simple” daw, but the aforementioned should be taken into consideration, as you have created a very powerful new feature here..
Now, if Podium had dragable fx and midi quantize options (grooves) I would be in DAW heaven!! 😆
Max
acousmodIf you want to reduce the space occupied by the master track, isn’t it sufficient to minimize the master track lane?
Oh yes, it was what I was doing before you have introduced the Hide Lane feature, for the master or other tracks…
But some more pixels are always good to have 😉
I would suggest making this an option, but enabled by default. So new users won’t be irritated and users like me, who love to decide by themselves which track should be visible or not, can have their ultimate flexible way of working with tracks.
Yes, always give the choice with Preferences !
Robert RandolphPodianer, can you elaborate a little bit on the “power” of the new effect track method?
I have not understood the benefit yet other than simply using less on-screen space (which is nice)
ZynewaveWould that be the case for all kinds of tracks? I find it quite useful to hide a bounce track at the top of a FX-chain, when I am not in need of it. Due to the high amount of flexibility these changes bring to Podium, and on the same hand also problems of understanding the hierarchy for new users, I would suggest making this an option, but enabled by default.
An option to hide an option to hide track lanes? “Hide hide track lane” 🙂
It would be for all tracks. As I mentioned earlier in this topic, I’m considering ways to keep bounce tracks hidden as well. But I’m still undecided on this. Maybe the solution is to add a third track layout option, similar to the compact mode but with fewer track customization options and thus more secure for new users.
PodianerMaybe the solution is to add a third track layout option, similar to the compact mode but with fewer track customization options and thus more secure for new users.
Good solution..
Igr0[/quote]
Maybe the solution is to add a third track layout option, similar to the compact mode but with fewer track customization options and thus more secure for new users.[/quote]
Yeah…:)
sam c@Zynewave wrote:
Maybe the solution is to add a third track layout option, similar to the compact mode but with fewer track customization options and thus more secure for new users.
i hope this is not at the cost of engine effeciency or gui clarity?
trying to resolve each potential issue with another option will be quite consuming?
Zynewavei hope this is not at the cost of engine effeciency or gui clarity?
The new track layout options are done without any changes to the engine, so engine efficiency is not affected.