CDLMonline@druid wrote:
Difficult indeed! There are several processes there that are not “needed”, but I don’t think they would really tie up your sound. You could try and end the RAVCpl64.exe process, but if VST Host works with it there, I don’t see why Podium wouldn’t. You could also close the Teamviewer application. For security reasons, I would typically recommend only opening that when you need it, anyway, though you may have already worked out your sertup and are happy with it, naturally.
I’ll add that I’m also running Windows 7 64-bit, and have had no issues like this.
okay thanks 😀
yeah I really dont know too why it does not work in podium but in VST host it works…
About teamviewer & other processes:
they are started by themselves when windows is starting & they are hidden… I am always trying to avoid such processes but it is often really hard..
I’ll try to install podium on windows xp… I have got Win XP & Win 7 on my laptop 😀
I’ll tell you if it will work there..
CDLMonline@kim: exactly what you said is why I am not going to buy any expensive DAW.. I realized that it depends more on other things… and thank god there are sooo many very good vsts & samples for free out there.. and every producer can choose the best from it out 😀
@the tenelator: thanks for your vst list… I’ll check these plugins out..
About WAV: I know that there quality is lossless… but I did made a test one time… and converted a wave track into mp3-320kbit/s, mp3-192kbit/s, mp3-128bit/s & mp3-96kbit/s
I took a really precise listen to every of this tracks…
And my result was that mp3-192kbit/s track had really remarkable worse quality than mp3-320kbit/s…
Then I compared mp3-320kbit/s with WAV…
And the result was that WAV is better, BUT the quality is really slightly better and you cannot recognize it really because you can only hear it if you concentrated on the tone of one single instrument… you could hear the instrument just a little bit more detailed…
All together my conclusion from this test is that you cant hear the difference between mp3-320kbit/s & WAV if you’re not extra looking for the small slightly difference..
So for me it is really not worth using so much space for WAV tracks & of course if you buy tracks WAV is really increasing the price for average 40-50%…
For samples I’ll always keep on WAV in every case…
Because at producing exactly this slightly more details of every instrument can make a big difference to a track without this details…
CDLMonlineokay thanks for all your help!!
I really have no idea too what could be the problem…
Here are the pic of my processes.. maybe you’ll find something I can try to close.
I made 2 pics because my processes would not fit into 1 pic
In the 2nd pic there are 2 more processes but I don’t think relevant ones because I just opened up IrfanView.. for screenshots.. (don’t know why it needs 2 processes instead of only one..)
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CDLMonline@The Telenator wrote:
Glad I could offer some help. Wasn’t sure what your full needs with MP3, but you might be surprised how many know nothing about the format itself, so thought I ought to mention.
I think I first heard about lame_enc.dll when having fun with Audacity 1.3, and it said I needed to acquire and place in folder that dll if I had any hope in dealing with MP3s. Audacity — some fun freeware DAW good for stream capture via Stereo Mix among other things.
You may not fully understand just how broke so many of us long-term musicians also are. I almost make a sport of seeing which gadgets/software I can do without. and there’s the ongoing hunt for great free stuff, like the VSTs I told you about. Podium is an incredible value, and I haven’t quite figured out yet whether to do the $35 every following year. Might just do every other? Time will tell.
Haha 1 year ago I did not care about audio quality.. I was even always looking for low quality to save up space LOL 😀
But now I only get the best quality possible in MP3… I don’t get wave tracks.. because they are really to big… but of course only wave samples 😀
about lame_enc.dll …. can I use it in podium too? or only in audacity?
I am looking everyday for free stuff too 😀
I’ve only got free VSTs… & there are only a few VSTs I would really buy because they are so amazing..
My samples are also all free samples… and there are GIGABYTES of legal free samples out there 😀
And my track library for DJing also consist of almost only non-commercial tracks from netlabels 🙂 … there also hundreds of netlabels out there which are having their releases every other time 😀
Ah and you’re right.. 🙂 It won’t be absolutely necessary to get the updates every year 😀 maybe every 2nd year…
CDLMonline@thcilnnahoj wrote:
Thanks for the images… Sorry it’s taking so long to fix this – it seems to be a tricky problem indeed. :-k
I can guarantee that it has nothing do to with Podium Free, though!Let’s try this simple test for now:
Please start Podium, open the MIDI/Audio Interfaces configuration window and
– first, make sure nothing is selected on the MIDI page,
– then switch to the audio tab, select ASIO type drivers and set the ASIO interface to none.Now exit and restart Podium, start a new project and try to select ASIO4ALL in the configuration dialog.
Does it still display the message saying it can’t access your sound card?
Okay I have done your test…
It was just the same that I did not get any sound….
The asio configuration window is just the same as the other one of zynewave podium I posted before..
And there was never any message saying that it cant access my sound card… also not before…
… Do you use Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit?
I use this OS, maybe it is the problem..
EDIT:
hm I read somewhere that ASIO4ALL does not work if any other program on my computer uses the drivers at the same time.. This does mean that I have to close every program that is using this realtek drivers..
I’ll try that out..
But do you know maybe some programs that could maybe use the drivers hidden?
2nd EDIT: Tried to do this… but did not help..
CDLMonline@The Telenator wrote:
Please note that aside from $50 for Podium, you really need NOT spend a penny more. Do not bother with 64-bit plugins and then forced to use bridging. The best freeware plugins are still 32-bit marvels.
With Cubase, the license, even the newest edition, is a fickle old grandmother, and you live in fear it will suddenly have a seizure and lock you out during height of intense project. Now they have added the dongle to carry license, that thingie like thumb drive (cost $30 and a two-day’s of headache when you lose it —
I got two pro acoustic guitar-and-vocals demos done in 3 hours with Podium over weekend. See posted on PODIUM POPPETS group on SoundCloud — and I had only read 14 pages of Guide at that point.
You got MP3 problem? Most DAWs did until last couple of years, but there are various tricks. Do you know about freeware lame-enc.dll? Also, it took my a horror of searching but there are a couple freeware converters on Web, and some really good $20 ones, which, if you must use MP3 constantly then might consider. I only export/render to 16-bit 44.1 192kbs (yea! Podium likes 192kbs), and then I do my conversion later if/when needed via Windows 7 mostly.
Yeah I know that I only have to pay 50$ … + 35$ per year If I want all updates… But I am only 16 years old and I am not getting a lot of money!! I am DJing too and I do not even have the required equipment! I am also buying all the tracks I get (I keep away from illegal software or music).. So I cant just get it right now.. I have to save up!
About Cubase: I think I’ll never buy an expensive DAW ever because I think that it is much better and even cheaper with Zynewave as it seems..
I am already in the soundcloud group but I have not uploaded anything yet… But I will still do that soon when I’ve got something…
I will also start reading this edited Podium guide.. I think It will really help me 🙂
With the MP3s:
I don’t need to convert anything into MP3… except my completed tracks when they are done for uploading them somewhere.. but for that I have got already good freeware.. (Free Audio Converter)
And I DONT want to use MP3 samples for producing! I always use wave samples!!
Actually I only like to load in a track as a reference to my track…
I don’t like to copy anything but just to hear if there is still missing a lot or the structure is crap in my own track…
And it is much more handy if I can do this direct in my DAW than having to minimize my DAW & open up Winamp …
Thx for telling me about lame_enc.dll
I knew it already but I did not think that I could play MP3s with it in a sequencer like Podium.. I’ll try that out…
CDLMonline@The Telenator wrote:
CDL, this is my basic list. Only really needed when recording and rendering (a must) or editing (really should). For just playback or setting up template pre-loading projects, don’t worry much. But you sure don’t want a hiccup or click on your best performance ever
BEFORE SERIOUS RECORDING/EDITING WORK:
okay thanks!!
I’ll keep that in mind!
CDLMonline@the telenator:
what exactly do you mean with that:
@The Telenator wrote:
Their entire licensing setup is NOT industry standard — never was. I always felt that the legitimate users were being punished when meanwhile dozens of cracked versions are flooding the internet.
I’d really like to know more precise about this… thanks 😀 !
I am reallly delighted that there are even people coming from an expensive software like cubase to podium and even say that podium is really much better for them…
Because I am someone with very low budget… First I was thinking about buying one day cuebase for a very expensive price…
But now as it looks like I’ll definetly get my licensed version of Zynewave Podium!! (but still have to save up!!) And I really love podium…
It has got everything I need and does not has this many unnecessary extra things like other sequencers like Cubase…
So everyone can download his samples & vsts for his own personal style 😀
The only things missing are:
– MP3 support (sometimes I just like to load in a track as a comparison.. & some samples are only available in mp3… not many but some..)
– Time-stretching feature…. could be often an important thing!
– my personal problem: my midi keyboard does not work… but fortunately there are some people in this forum trying to help me to get a solution for my issue!
CDLMonline@The Telenator wrote:
Unfortunately, I have way too many other items on my equipment needs list to buy another computer to dedicate for DAW use only, but I’ve learned to shut out the net, virus protection, and all non-essentials when doing any serious recording whatsoever. Never again will I capture the perfect recorded track, only to discover some ruining click(s), gaps and whatnot because of some other software suddenly deciding to update with no prior notice. Since I began the 2-minute optimizing each time I need to record, I’ve never had another problem.
I ought to add that I don’t play or install games or unneeded crud on my computer, either. Aside from e-mail, Skype, Facebook and important music sites, everything is geared toward music production, and I find that these newer PCs with a good harddrive and components can easily handle everything with no issues whatsoever. I have learned to be fanatical about computer maintenance through all of this, to keep things running smoothly.
Finally, I don’t believe MACs are any better than a well-maintained PC. I’ve seen enough — just as many issues with them, ask any experienced IT professional — to know that whole “Get a MAC” thing is just a modern myth. For me, PCs are more practical and economical, as long as you buy a quality, well-built rig in the first place.
cool … thanks for your post 😀
I will learn from this.. 🙂
In future I’ll also disconnect my internet & virus protection & other unnecessary processes.
I was thinking about getting a mac in the distant future…
But actually I think that a PC should do the same thing…
Are there also this veeery big pc monitors for producing as the mac ones?
CDLMonlineOkay there are the screenshots:
1. ASIO4ALL in VST host:
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2. ASIO4ALL in Zynewave Podium Free:
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Thanks for having a look a this!!
btw.: is it possible that the problem is that I am using Zynewave Podium “FREE”?… maybe it is only possible in the non-freeware…
CDLMonlineokay :D…
There is a good message and a bad one…
I can get sound with Asio4All in VST Host… I played some notes with my midi keyboard..
but I tried the Asio4All drivers in Zynewave Podium and I did not get any sound 🙁
But if I looked close, the settings in Zynewave Podium are not exactly the same as in VST Host…. But I cant change that thing that is different!! (It is this besides the power button…. the female sign/play sign….)
I am going to post the 2 screenshots very soon so that you can understand what I mean…
CDLMonline@thcilnnahoj wrote:
Thanks for trying in VST Host! Would you please also try if ASIO4All works in VST Host on your computer? You should select it under the menu Geräte -> Wave… -> Ausgabegerät. If it works, the ASIO4All icon should appear on the task bar and you should get sound as usual.
If this works I’ll try to guide you through using it in Podium, too, as it is virtually impossible to use a sequencer on Windows without ASIO!
After we get that sorted we’ll move on to your keyboard. 😉
Okay… I tried out ASIO4ALL in VST Host and I did not get any sound but the program must have got the input from my keyboard because the dB-level display in VST host was always raising when I played a key….
After that I tried out the normal realtek drivers and I still got my sound as before…
What do you think is the problem that ASIO does not work?
Thanks & Peace,
CDLM
CDLMonline@thcilnnahoj wrote:
Hi, I’d really like to help but I need to know a little more about your setup first!
– What type of sound card do you have? E.g., M-Audio FastTrack USB, RealTek on-board or such. If you haven’t used ASIO before, I assume you also haven’t installed any drivers for your sound card?
– Have you been able to use your keyboard on this computer with other sequencers? If you didn’t try yet please check in this program called VST Host (http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm).
If nothing works… hmm, I’ll probably be back in Vienna around Christmas. Just thinking maybe I could take a look at it first hand. 😉
hey thanks for your request 😀
– My soundcard is a standard built-in Realtek soundcard
And I have ASIO4ALL 2.10 (the newest version) installed on Windows 7 … but either I don’t understand how to use it or it doesnt work on Windows 7 for some reason…
– thanks that you posted this link!! I tried out my keyboard on VSTHost and it worked without any problems and I did not even had to set up the drivers or anything..
so as it looks like, its a problem with Zynewave & not with my keyboard…
Do you know what could be the problem?
Thanks for ya help & Peace
CDLM
EDIT:
By the way… is it possible that I need to plug the power supply into the keyboard? (I would need to buy this…) but normally the keyboard should also work without it (worked with no problems in VSThost…)
But I think maybe that could be the problem because the error message is that the midi keyboard is not “powered on” or not connected.. for what else should the power supply be there?
CDLMonlinecould anyone help me?…
I would really need my midi keyboard!
I think I won’t purchase the full zynewave podium version if my keyboard will never work…
CDLMonline@Zynewave wrote:
As long as you haven’t enabled the “microsoft gs wavetable synth” in Podium interfaces dialog, then it shouldn’t matter. Don’t bother trying to delete it from Windows. It is there so that Windows can play MIDI files.
Yes, you should use ASIO drivers. If you haven’t got one for your audio card, try the ASIO4ALL.com free driver.
If you still get the MIDI input error, check if you have any MIDI utilities/programs that are automatically started when you boot Windows. Check the system tray, or the Windows Task Manager.
Also, verify that you have the latest driver installed for your MIDI keyboard.
Microsoft gs wavetable synth is definitely not enabled!!
and I did not use asio but now I tried out ASIO but it still did not work…
And I’ve got a problem with ASIO!! I dont get any sound with ASIO and it tells me that my output devices are not connected!!!
I dont know why…
And I could not find any program that uses midi utilities… but I don’t know what exactly every process in the windows task manager is doing..
Thx for your help and greets,
CDLM 😀