@Mike G wrote:
Simple (I assume) idea to increase discoverability of podiums extensive customisation..
On right click menus for screen obects, include “Editor Profile Properties” shortcut.
Agreed. While new users will have to be careful there the Editor Profile Properties is somewhat buried in PDM ATM. :-k
Your suggestion will definitely make it a bit more accessible without giving it too high a priority / listing in a right click menu.
@pavouk100 wrote:
@Conquistador wrote:
LP’s post pretty much explains it namunger.
I understand your point but we definitely want to avoid the floating window and still have a different zoom value for the embedded editor at the same time. This does not seem possible currently. 🙂
I, on the other hand, completely agree with namunger; having embedded editor time/zoom-locked with arrangement is a BIG usability plus, and sacrificing it only because of cosmetic issue (floating window ‘ugliness’) is very bad idea IMO. Moreover, floating it does not seem to be ugly to me at all, I don’t have anything against them.
We are talking about an option here though. 🙂 So nothing gets sacrificed. Based on this comment from Frits…
“I’ll consider adding an option in the embedded editor region properties, to enable non-embedded editor profiles as well.”
Clearly anyone can easily ignore the new feature (when / if it is added). Like many things in Podium it will not impact any existing user workflow for anyone who does not want to use the feature.
Unless I read Frits comments the wrong way it will not replace anything. 🙂
LP’s post pretty much explains it namunger.
I understand your point but we definitely want to avoid the floating window and still have a different zoom value for the embedded editor at the same time. This does not seem possible currently. 🙂
Very well illustrated thcilnnahoj. It has not been a problem for me I have to say but now that you mention it if there is currently no way to decouple the midi editors zoom from the arrange zoom value then yes the change would be welcome. 🙂
@Markus wrote:
It’s kinda sad to see that some of these wanteed features is 3 years old 🙄
I agree with LiquidProj3ct.
Markus… 🙂
…appearances can be very deceptive. What you have not seen over that same period (years) is how many times Frits has…
1. Added features to Podium at extremely short notice that were not easy to do.
2. Carefully listened to criticism (sometimes quite frank) of certain aspects and still gone to great lengths to re write many areas of Podium. The current Compact view is an excellent example. Frits spent ages working on that and really tried hard to take on board our suggestions for it.
3. He is only one man. The frequency of FR’s that are posted on this forum does not match the realistic ability one man can have to implement them all. It takes time. A great deal of time, years even.
4. I am only one member of this forum. My needs are in no way whatsoever more important than anyone else on this forum. Even a user that has joined for one day and has a post count of 1.
We are all equals here so understandably not all of my personal requests over the years will be implemented when I want them or at all in future. I understand that and have no problem with it. Frits is trying to please many users (doing a great job that is difficult to do) so it’s most certainly in no way even nearly just about me and my FR’s! 😉
5. He surely has to balance the possibility of any FR potentially interfering with his current development focus. With any thing as complex as developing an Audio + Midi host you really have to be very careful. It is very likely when those FR’s were made they did not fit into his plans at the time. Also see point 4 again.
6. Even though Frits does encourage user feedback he also has his own long term view for Podium. That is only natural but IMO he never forces his view over user feedback. He tries to work with us to implement features without fault or bugs and that are graphically pleasing and 100% rock solid when used. This is extremely rare in the host market. Simply Gold.
7. Frits has to manage a huge amount of FR’s, tens of FR’s or even hundreds now I would guess. He cannot please everyone all the time. No one can.
8. While Podium has frequent releases (say 4 – 8 weeks sometimes sooner) the features added are not up to 50 – 100. That would create a very stressful scenario for him as he would have to tackle a huge amount of fixes at the same time. Does not sound like fun to me at all. A steady and much more manageable approach is something he has stuck to carefully and is surely one of the main reasons he still develops Podium today.
That means everyone has to be a bit more patient regarding FR’s than perhaps compared to other similar applications out there. I have no problem with that.
9. Frits has a personal life to live (like the rest of us). So… he only has so much time in a day for Podium development.
Hope that helps. 🙂
Another set of smaller UI enhancements…
1. Clip info when moved.
3. Stereo or Mono…
4. Clip text
5. Track level realtime db values:
Usability would definitely be improved IMO if the mixer was not always required to see a simple realtime change of db values. It would also give far more screen space to the arrangement view in Podium with the mixer out of the way, but of course the mixer would still be available when required. Just glance at your track to see the db values change in realtime during playback.
Part usability part graphic enhancement…
Nice ideas.
Well Frits has the code and asked for suggestions so I guess he is the only one that knows what is possible one way or another. We could discuss this all year. >tee hee< 8) I am guessing he is thinking it over (with a good drink in one hand and his favourite sandwich in the other) 😛 so I will not press for a direct response but if it’s complex it will not happen, not yet anyway if it is not too much work then… :D/ 🙂
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
About docking GUIs, I’ve read about it very quickly… but don’t you think that it would be almost imposible? Each GUI has different size, if you join IL Delay 2, with Synth1 it would be weird! Live can do it because all their plugins are native…
Did I understand it right? Am I right?
edit: try to dock Gladiator 2, you will need a cinema screen 😛
But docking it with an embedded editor will allow you to drag it down out of the way (like the mixer) without having to keep closing the GUI and re open again. Multiple docked GUI’s is probably too much for 2.20 but a single docked GUI that can be dragged up or down out of the way like the mixer I think would work with any size of GUI and would I suspect be far less work. If it can be docked in an embedded editor it can be dragged down partially or totally out of sight as well.
If Gladiators GUI is so big it is an excellent candidate for such a feature. 😉
I have plenty of GUI’s that are large but don’t want to close just yet during a project, but they still obscure another part of PDM I want to see. Docking even one GUI would be a huge usability addition to PDM IMO.
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
@Conquistador wrote:
Docking GUI’s?
We currently have to drag them out of the way. A simple window that can be embedded like the mixer would be great for keeping the UI clear. One could work with many different tabbed GUI’s and not have any of them obscure the UI.
Ooh – now that’s something! 8)
It’d could be a bit like in Live. Maybe use the embedded editor’s space and show a little plug-in chain for when a track instead of an event is selected.But however you do it, it sounds like much work to me. 😛
Indeed it would be a great addition. Some sort of visual chain of all FX on a track would be great but it does sound like a lot of work (might not be hopefully) in any case I am quite happy for Frits to settle for something simpler (yet still very effective) like this…(one GUI docked at any one time).
@ronin wrote:
the global SMR buttons plus the fantastic “add track” and “add child track” button!
http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1438
Absolutely. Yes yes and…yes please. 🙂
The Global SMR buttons and thcilnnahoj’s brilliant mock up for the quick addition of different track types would fall under small graphical UI enhancements (they at least look that way). 😛
More usability improvements… less graphically related but still usability related.
Start Page:Addition of a Clear all command to the Recent projects area.
Standard / easier folder behaviour: When moving mappings in the Devices area of the Start page Cut, Copy and Paste right click options would seriously simplify moving things around there.
Lovely start for 2.20. Great. 🙂
Here are some more things that can simplify getting around Podiums UI.
Navigator arrows
By default the navigator gives no visual clue how to move it. I think it should have two small arrows on either side of it, as one cannot be expected to know this in advance.
Horizontal slider bar:
Unless it is still there it should be restored IMO. The navigator unless I am missing something, replaced the horzontal slider? While the navigator offers a nice way to very quickly move around Podium the horizontal slider IMO should be there as well. I should have mentioned this ages ago. Kept forgetting to mention it.
B Button optional behaviour
On click bounce button. The B button should always be visible on tracks and cycle through the following when clicked…
1. Realtime Recording
2. Realtime bounce playback
3. Disabled
It is buried in the bounce menu currently.
Bounce > Bounce mode Realtime recording
Then you have to go back into the Bounce menu (very strange) and choose Activate Realtime Record.
Really it needs to be far easier than that. Going back into the same menu is a very odd. The B Button should cycle through its offerings on the track.
Docking GUI’s?
We currently have to drag them out of the way. A simple window that can be embedded like the mixer would be great for keeping the UI clear. One could work with many different tabbed GUI’s and not have any of them obscure the UI.