@swindus wrote:
I did a search and found no FR for this.
Is it be possible to implement a function in the drum map editor which gets the note/key names from (drum) plugins automatically?
That would be very useful. 8)
Hi Brent,
Another RMX user here…I use RMX in Podium on a fairly regular basis and I often drag and drop Midi from RMX to Podiums arranger. Support was added for that a number of versions ago IIRC. I just tried it again (with playback stopped and then again during playback) and no crash.
I assume you are already using the latest version but it is worth asking…are you using RMX 1.8? (1.8.1d) :-k
@Zynewave wrote:
Correct. The name entered in the project properties dialog is not linked to the file name. That also applies to the name entered in the sound properties dialog. My original thought behind this was that it would make it possible to enter a more specific name for the object, also allowing the use of chars that are illegal in filenames. The option to ignore the object name and just always use the filename has been requested before by acousmod, and it is a FR that is creeping up on my todo list. Improved file management is also on the list, but right now all my attention is on the new automation system.
Cool. Thanks for the clarification Frits. 8)
Yes please carry on with the automation revision for now. I definitely do not want you to get sidetracked from that. Cheers! π
@Zynewave wrote:
Yes, it’s been 3 full days since I added them. Please pay attention [-X
π
>Tee hee< :P
Oh, and congrats on your new avatar =D>
Thanks π
Ok..I reproduced that problem here easily.
It appears to be a Project Properties name that is not changed after the Save Project As… command is used.
I previously saved an arrangement as F Beat. Then went to “Save Project As…” and saved it as “tester for Fbeat”. Now when I loaded the project back up…you guessed it, “FBeat” showed up in the Recent projects column…and not the name of the project I just saved. :-s
So the Project Properties Name really should be changed automatically when saving using Save Project As… it’s current behaviour now is confusing. By design or bug…really arrangment and project management areas in general IMO do now need a bit more time spent on them. π
@aMUSEd wrote:
Also its so confusing that if I save say a copy of “VSTi Project 1” as “VSTi Project 4” it still appears as “VSTi project 1” when I open it in the project menu.
Strange. I don’t think I have come across that problem before. Sounds like a bug. If that is really what is happening then something either by design or bug related is not working as it should.
I wonder if I can reproduce that problem…I’ll have a look.
In general…
Some sort of revision of arrangement saving / management would help. Clips dragged into an arrangement and not being copied into a project folder automatically is something else I would also like to see revised / changed in Podium.
Hi guys… π
Believe me I have posted so many ways on this forum to simplify Podium over the years. Loads. I too want things to be as simple as possible but I think Frits will have to strike a balance between adding features in certain areas in Podium and avoiding complexity. (I think he has done a great job doing this so far especially as a one man operation).
The feature addition part is to please existing customers but IMO more importantly to draw in more users.
I think for music making purposes Podium IMO has long since passed the point of being more than capable (processing, mixing e.t.c) but there will always be a need to add more features (to stay competitive and maintain interest) or the development of Podium stands still. Adding more features can be done while maintaining simplicity.
I think the real time pop up you get when using Podiums Gridβ’ π and the central point for automation control in Cubase 5 are excellent examples of well designed, easy to use interfaces that provide access to very powerful features. In any case lets see what Frits cooks up π
@Zynewave wrote:
:-k Hmm. Fair enough to get all automation ideas on the table while I’m already revising the system.
Thanks for being open minded about it and considering more additions…I can think of a few that will help…
1. Read / Write buttons controls per track. Global Read / Write as well.
2. A central Automation control point within Podium. An Additional Panel maybe or an addition to the Group Panel. Perhaps something that replaces the Group panel when in view. “Show automation control centre” or “Show arrangement automation”.
Nuendo and now Cubase 5 use this…
Watch the first minute or so of the video on this page to see it in action.
You can find out more detail about the central Automation management in Cubase here[/url:ls7n4z2h] Page 190 onwards.
3. Optional larger sized points. They can require a very steady hand when editing automation points.
4. Additional Automation types Touch, Latch…(more info on these in the Cubase link above Page 191 onwards).
I guess I could add the “use as composite track” option for parameter tracks as well. That should make it possible to manually compose a parameter track using take lanes, just like the current composite track feature. To make it automatically create new takes on recording requires a bit more work.
I think I would be quite happy for a longer than normal release time frame for 2.15 if you need more time to get it right and revise the automation in Podium. Please take as much time as you need.
Can you describe a situation where you would use multi-take parameter tracks?
Personally I would use it to choose from a few takes of a cut off parameter being automated. Of course there are many other parameters that can creatively benefit from this feature. Various Mix knobs, Wet e.t.c It could easily be very creatively used. Pernst may have yet another way, or maybe this was what he had in mind. I think it is a very clever idea either way.
Out of curiosity: Are there any other hosts which support a multi-take feature for automation?
I think there may be but then again maybe not. It’s not something I have heard of before not like this anyway. Podiums track hierarchy seems to in theory provide a pretty good framework for Pernst’s suggestion.
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
I don’t know about the “big” host as Cubase, Logic… but I can imagine that no, or it would be too complex with too many options, killing my workflow.
That is where a central point for controlling automation in Podium (as in Nuendo and recently Cubase 5) comes in. It really is necessary as it simplifies Automation management making it very easy indeed. Quite a few cubase users wanted the new Automation controls from Nuendo. Initially I could not see why. What is the big deal? I can see why now after reading more about it. It is pretty slick IMO.
Great, thanks for coming back to this Frits!
If it is a time issue then IMO I think you should feel quite free to take as long as you need Frits to address this problem (hopefully in 2.15). If it is a case of you perhaps wondering if it is *that* important then I think it is.
I have (as many others do of course) a list of features I think would further improve Podium but I would really like to see this particular issue revised above other FR’s personally.
Hopefully addressing it is not too complicated.
@Zynewave wrote:
The track inspector on the left side (closest to the track headers) shows all settings related to the currently selected track. The browser on the right side (closest to the timeline area) is a global file explorer from where you can drag files onto the timeline. That’s how it has always been in Podium, and that’s the same layout that e.g. Logic Audio uses. Why is that all of a sudden wrong?
Not wrong Frits. π But not exactly the same not that it has to be in any case.
Ok…Logic has a separate Inspector for track management but the resources for a song, Presets, FX chains, Loops e.t.c are accessible from it’s browser.
I am not saying you should do away with the Inpsector but…Presets, Track templates, mappings would be better placed in the new browser. Not wrong all of a sudden in P2.14 but the browser would be more useful if the inspector was more track focused and the browser more project resource focused.
If I start a project I then use the device Panel to drag in my plugins then scroll across to use another browser for my audio, midi files e.t.c. It is much better to use one browser for that which is how Logic works, Cubase as well. Podium does not have to mimic anything out there but IMO and this is what thcilnnahoj was referring to IIRC…one browser is easier to manage and is better than two for managng a songs resources. I would put plugins and presets e.t.c in that category as other hosts have for ease of use.
The ability to show a global project list in the browser has always been there. This project browser does not update according to the selected track, and so it would be a nightmare to try to use this to find presets etc. The project browser is optional and is mainly there to give advanced users a tool to manage their projects. That’s why it is hidden by default in the embedded browser.
True it does not update according to the selected track (now) but could it, if that is the way to add presets to the browser?
You already have SMR buttons on each track header. I don’t understand what you mean?
Ok let me explain in more detail π actually this is the best way to describe it, here…(with a screenshot).
Not track level SMR, but arrangement level SMR. If any track or tracks in Podium are solo enabled the global or arrangement level S button will disable all tracks that are soloed. No need for a keyboard shortcut. Many times in Podium you can have tracks within tracks and it is not always easy to see what is solo or mute enabled especially in a large project.
The global SMR buttons would be auto enabled if any Solo, Mute or Record command is enabled on any track. It would also let a user immeadiately see much more easily if any track (especially any hidden track) is solo, mute or record enabled.
A simple click on any of these SMR buttons would disable Solo, Mute or Record for ALL tracks in an arrangement. You cannot do this in Podium currently without using a keyboard shortcut.
The example I gave was using Samplitude in the link above. You could even try the Samplitude demo if you want to see what I mean hands on.
HTH
Thanks for having another look at the Browser Frits. I initially thought the movement of the info box when the inspector is closed was a bug but it reappeared under the browser. I assume it is as intended. Very nice idea.
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
– Filters for the Project browser to view only VST/VSTi + parameters; VST presets; Audio/MIDI sequences; Automation sequences. (If possible to seperate all these)
I can see the use for accessing sequences of different types, but why would you want VST filters when you have that directly in the inspector device panel?
Seen as all the devices are available from the browser anyway, I thought you might as well have the ability to access everything in one place, if you wanted.
This is a huge deal IMO. Totally agree one browser should be all that is needed. Why have two Frits? β β β
Logic , Sonar, Tracktion, ACID, Ableton Live, Cubase e.t.c use one single browser. Even the new Presonus Studio one uses a single browser. I might add somewhat very similar to the placement in Podium, along with the look and feel. No need for two browsers as that would mean we have to move between the Inspector and the new browser. Slows things down Frits. Complicates workflow. Really.
The browser is an extremely important part of a host as this is how a demo user or existing customer will consistently access all of their projects resources. It’s critical to get it right.
I think we should have access to Presets, Parameters, Track templates, VST’s and VSTi’s and other devices from new browser. Definitely prefer having one browser open instead of two. An option could be added to show a large meter instead of the track panels as devices e.t.c could now be fully accessible in the new browser.
There should be no need to switch back and forth between the browser and the Inspector panels that adds complication to working on Podium…using one browser makes it much easier. A user can of course easily select what they want to see in the new browser.
The inspector shares functionality with the browser which IMO is OK to a point, but I think the two should now be separate (at least optionally) it may have been this way for a long time but I think it is a problem going forward with a need for two browsers to be open for simple tasks.
Logic has a slick browser that allows all the browsing from *one* place with just four tabs. So much easier this way.
1. Loops (Apple Loops)
2. Browser (Instruments)
3. Bin (Audio files)
4. Library (Presets)
Podium could add to the existing Project and File buttons…
1. Project: (Project specific resources like audi and midi)
2. File: (Browse user drive).
3. Presets: ( FXP, Track templates e.t.c)
4. Tempo Synced: If a user should browse in this window the file will tempo sync with the Project tempo. I suppose if Timestretch is implemented it could replace beatslicing.
Some more ideas…
Browser
1. Midi Preview
This would be absolutely great. Surely a consideration for the new browser features as we are almost there.
Anything a user drags from the browser really should be automatically copied to the project folder. This has tripped me up many times leading to a search for the missing file or files.
3. Search box
In Live you can search for a file from within its browser. Really useful feature.
4. File tagging
5. Extend beat slicing to the Browser window (time stretching would be ideal here but without it if any audio file can be beatsliced in the browser then maybe some form of tempo sync can be attained if the project is playing back and a file is being previewed).
I would imagine beat slicing (in the browser) to be something that can be added as an option.
6.Timestretching
Simply ideal for the browser. Of course this is already used this way in many hosts already. It is an somewhat expected feature.
Inspector
1. Large Meter (with realtime db values)
There will be plenty of space for this in the Inspector if Presets, Devices, e.t.c can be managed from the new browser. In any case it can be an optional Panel.
2. Global SMR
It would be great to not have to use keyboard shortcuts to simply solo or un solo a track or multiple tracks. Also it would eliminate the need for a user to zoom out to see where a solo has been added to a track e.t.c or having to use the Mixer to *see* it.
With Global SMR or Arrangement level buttons, three of these buttons could be placed under the File, View and Edit buttons or next to the Group Panel and Colour Picker buttons in the GP.
SMR
If you have a track or more you want to quickly disable or enable solo Mute or record for, you should easily be able to do so by clicking on one of those buttons. The current process we have has had me contantly accessing the current keyboard shortcut to do this as there is no other way currently.
Other…
Plugin Gui docking (looking to have easy Plugin GUI access without any floating windows). If you are working on floating and docking windows please do consider this.
Thanks.