The TelenatorThanks, got the email and just now downloaded your 1.04. I’ll be able to give it a good testing Monday afternoon.
Thanks for looking over the configuration textfile I sent, and so glad to hear you experienced a similar phenomenon with the related plugin on REAPER. So good to know my machine isn’t ‘possessed’! This other plugin sounds interesting as well.
It occurred to me that since those skins are openly customisable in the Preferences that perhaps somehow your instructions in the GUI were attempting to ‘write’ to that particular feature in the file. If so, that weakness might be an actual bug in REAPER. I’m only speculating here, but I’ve seen stranger things.
I think there were more entries (55) this year in D.C.’12 than ever before. There were also all manner of bugs to go around. You were up against people such as Bootsie and g200kg this year, guys who have been at it for ages and seem to hit a home run every time. I know for a fact that the Variety of Sound Thrillseeker plugin got some votes purely because of name recognition. Entering yours makes a great first showing in my opinion. I’m guessing you’ll have plugins to release next year. Of course, if you release this next one we’ve been talking about after the first, it would be eligible in the fall also.
Considering that I’ve not only hijacked this thread but probably now stand in danger of boring readers here to tears, I’ll probably reach you by email for further details. I trust someone got something out of our discussion here — an insight into real-time plugin development and all the efort that goes into it.
Cheers!
Tele
The TelenatorThe CPU, at least on the top-priced Surface tablet is fine. No issues there. The harddrive can hold perhaps a couple of full-sized Podium projects, as long as you have not loaded your tablet with the normal assortment of other programmes and things that most regular users will add to any PC or tablet. One person I know who acquired an advanced release stated, “once I had loaded all of Microsoft’s standard stuff to my drive, and once I installed all my necessary music software, I had less than 80 gigs remaining for anything else. And that was before I put in some of my favourite PC programmes and gadgets I use every day.”
Now, I have personally had the chance to see and use one of these a little while back. The whole RT Metro part of the tablet has no use whatsoever for anyone doing serious audio. Next, the OS of Windows 8 works quite well with all of the audio, DAW plugins, etc., that I’ve either tried myself or seen others use. My own very unscientific benchtest results gave me a savings of roughly 5 to 10% on lower CPU cost when all normal music items were up and running properly. Others have reported up to 15% CPU processing reductions using better scientific means.
So it appears Windows 8 will be just fine for pro audio needs in the processing, even though I greatly prefer Windows 7 all around and will most likely be out buying an extra disk of it very shortly.
The larger issue is that, once you have all your needed software installed on your Surface tablet, there is very little room to do much serious music, very little room for real projects, aside from minor music noodlings, recording melodies that come to your during your flight, etc.
THIS MEANS you will have to have an external drive. Now, once you have that connected, along with your keyboard (since Podium has NO on-screen, or virtual, keyboard to its programme), your interface connection, and perhaps a wired internet connection, then suddenly you are no more portable with it or have any real advantage over a good laptop.
What you do have then, is the minor limitations of the tablet setup itself and the major limitation of no drive space. Simple as that. Of course, you will supposedly have a touch screen to use, but the newest laptops already offer this feature, too.
Please correct me if I am wrong, and I may very well be, but it looks to me your zeal to have a tablet is causing you to think impractically about any of this — and other concerns I haven’t even mentioned yet that others have brought up on those PC forums. I have a little digital recorder, all of $40, to capture any musical bits when I’m traveling. It works simply and just fine. So I ask, where is the advantage in having a tablet?
The TelenatorHey, alex,
Well, certainly, this is one valid way to go with building one’s amp sound. I’d say perhaps as many as 50% of guitarists are using this one or that other major competitor that is using this ‘amp store’ setup to sell their goodies.
But I’ve gone about it the other way. I simply auditioned practically all, including a couple of these, and then I chose the best company in my opinion and best price, Scuffham Amps, maker of the very highly rated S-Gear bundle of three boutique-structured amps and deluxe effects. To add to those, while Mike at Scuffham is designing a nice OD device and other free additions to his ‘package’, I’ve built up a collection of ‘pedals’, or I should say the software clones thereof, that are offered as freeware around the Net. Some of them are actually much better than what you’ll find at these amp shop places, some due to patent issues.
I don’t have the sites to link, but they are easily searched and downloaded. In fact, I’ll be very honest to say that I WON’T post some of these lessor-known among them on other forums. Why give away the hot sounds you’ve searched so hard and then demoed thoroughly to acquire to forum members who are sometimes even adversarial types? Well, I hope it is obvious that this forum and its dedicated followers hold a special place to my thinking. I’ve posted yet-unreleased and little-known facts and news items here and nowhere else — and often. Not my problem if non-Podium users aren’t clever enough to hunt tips and info at other forums that are outside the tunnel vision of the mainstream.
I’m not knocking the validity of the IK group, except to say I don’t like the way I was constantly junk mailed with yet another amp or item to buy, and I didn’t care for the whole registration and download structure. The amp shop setup appeared cute to me . . . until I had to use it. This is merely my personal choice and opinion. Others, obviously, it may suit better. [Edit} I want to add that some of the amps in amp shop didn’t sound very good to me, didn’t sound like the amp they claimed to model sometimes. Finally, I’d rather pay for my amps at a very good price once and get it over with permanently.
Here are the very best of freeware pedals that I have found and now have at my disposal, again, easily searched and acquired (search under these names):
Very obvious Tube Screamer clones: TSE808 and TS-999;
More than obvious Fuzz Face and Fender Blender clones: Face Bender (two plugs in one window);
the rare Rangemaster in clone form: Rangebastard
the new ProCo Rat pedal clone: TSE_R47_1.0
I’d be very interested in hearing back from any of our Podium guitarists as regards their opinions on any/all of these! Happy downloading!
Cheers!
Tele
The TelenatorMailed you the goods you requested moments ago.
I discovered that in most cases I will not need to shoot down your GUI to 70% to fit on most forum pages, but I’m going to make one that size anyway just in case. I posted it over in a sim amp/sim tube thread at REAPER forum earlier and it fit very nice. It fit perfect here too.
The fact that it works fine for everybody else but my demon computer is a good thing in some respects. And my issues with it are lessor at this point too. BTW, Cantabile 1.0 very different programme from 2.0 (junk).
Sure hope it can be made perfect, because the more I think about it, the more I think this plugin will be a smash hit among the people of the amp sim forums, digital guitarists. Some keyboards employ OD in up-front position, too, if high-quality enough, and I think this one is. I have been blessed with the ability to help out with various causes when I choose, and I would like to help get this one moving for a while longer whenever it’s good and ready. Plugin would be a nice little self-gift to guitarists during the holidays, if it can be AOK in a week or so.
Did you check the winners of D.C. 2012? I picked 3 out of 4 correctly. Kamioooka synth was my big first choice. Cool cable modular synth! Later . . .
The Telenator
The TelenatorHello Again, AXP,
An out-of-town gig this weekend, so I am just now getting myself back together in one piece here. Let me answer your post sort of helter skelter and cover the important things.
First, I know precisely the most perfect place to start announcing the SoftAmp 3OD plugin once things are all good to go. That friend I was telling you about, Mike, owns the fantastic S-Gear package of 3 boutique software amps and accompanying effects. Now, to achieve the heaviest modern electric guitar sound — whether real metal or just of the Led Zep variety of heavy — his amps require one more level of quality boost loaded in front of the amp used, just like almost all of them do. We have had many discussions on his amp forum and elsewhere about which is best. Good sim amps will take a real floor pedal or any software clone of one on the front end. So we’ve all been running around the Net scooping up the best to try each. There are a few good ones but only one or two that could currently be called ‘great’. I just picked up the clone of the ProCo Rat and it sounds pretty good. The only truly great ones I have so far is the Fuzz Face and the Rangemaster clones. The two tube screamers are just a bit above average.
I tell you, every guitarist who today uses an amp sim is going to want to try your 3OD. For one, most of us understand things like plate voltages, tube type and even .22uF vs .47uF (if you play a Fender guitar which uses precisely those values!). Although there is no way I’m throwing out my software Fuzz Face, your plugin will be seen as an authentic attempt to model and make usable preamp tubes. Now that I know the sound well also, part of what took so long the other day, I fully trust you will have a winner with this. As I said, it sounds excellent. The gain structure of each goes from basically imperceptible up very smoothly to the real ‘pushed tube’ sound. Many of the real-tube pedals on the market have been flops because they run at best only 9 or 12 volts through the tube. That’s nearly useless. It doesn’t create real tube overdrive, and they are more of a gimmick than anything.
Starting there, and here, and certainly at the REAPER forum also where there is a very large number of guitarists, starting a thread about this will attract much attention. If at all possible a screen shot at 100% or down to 2/3 of this plugin’s GUI will make it irresistible. (Just got it) When the guitarists see the tubes and voltage choices, if they notice the intense 16X oversampling ability, I really think most of them will go nuts over it. And again, it sounds perfect for a front-of-amp boost stage. This potential at the amp website forums only dawned on me after you mentioned getting the word out.
I wasn’t suggesting the minor clicking and the activation of the LED-like lights on the gain was a 1:1 correspondence, but it almost seems that way!
I have now the configuration details you asked for. I scanned it briefly and saw nothing irregular or concerning, but if you do, please let me know. I gave up programming and coding back in about ’80 when it was all that terribly boring Pascal and COBOL, business software that could bore even the nerdiest PC major to tears. Wish I’d had a crystal ball then but no serious regrets. In any case, I’m not the expert. You may see something. I have a tech guy but haven’t had any work for him aside from a quick checkup in two years. We have joked, however, that the recording laptop, the ASUS, might truly be haunted or perhaps enchanted, because it normally performs much better than I think it should. It’s not a MacBook Pro. Aside from stripping out some bloatware when I bought it, and streamlining it some further for recording use only, the only other real change I have made is that I have it set for a +33% turbo on the cores when I want it, which I do use quite a lot these days. No overheating or any side effects, though.
I should recap simply by saying that your SoftAmp plugin is the only VST that has caused any real problem in any DAW in something like nine months to a year, so it did concern me especially before you released those revisions. After I finished customizing my audio and DAWs setup late last year, it’s been extremely smooth sailing. This ASUS without a doubt has been the best computer I’ve used or owned yet.
I think that if there will be any pop or clicking sounds remaining because of the normal functioning of the plugin that a sentence about that should be included in a ReadMe or manual if it ends up with one. I mean something beyond the minor level of clicking in the Gain knob.
I think I may just post those screen shots here in the next minute or so. But soon after, assuming no further distractions today, I will head over to your web page and send you the config32. Talk to you later!
Cheers!
The TelenatorThis rather recent article is lately making the rounds (outside of Estonia), so I wanted to link it — an informative read, but also contains a photo of a happy Mike with his assistant and gal, Shuroma. I thought seeing the man behind these fantastic software amps and effects might be of interest.
http://news.err.ee/Economy/464e9e16-65aa-492d-a2ed-c28b9ea46f41
I wanted to add, too, that these amps aren’t for every guitarist. They are much like a very fine wine. You can give someone a glass of the finest Johannesburg Riesling and some chaps will chug it down like it’s Boone’s Farm, Mad Dog 20/20 or a $5 gallon of Gallo’s cheapest. Not that one should think a snob attitude is needed to appreciate them, or that they are difficult to use in any way, either. Far from it! These are a working man’s amps as much as any Fender or Marshall. But “jus’ sayin'” — they are for guitarists who have ears and know how to discern top-quality tone and function.
And one last time: Still priced at a steal of $75 USD but going to $99 on the first of the year, since an excellent upgrade has already been released now and more free upgrades to licensed users next year!
The TelenatorZynewave +1 on your intentions there. Hehe — ‘archive’ us all!
The TelenatorAXP, sorry to keep you waiting! The time difference between us further aggravates this. Let me say as well, though, that this has captured my interest as well, to the point that I set aside a somewhat minor project today to investigate. The project can wait.
I have both good and bad news for you. Perhaps you anticipated this.
First, the issue still exists, along with another lessor concern I should mention. But I have located the problem we are most concerned with: IT IS IN THE GUI of all versions except the ‘NoGUI’ release. I could have used ‘don’t launch GUI’ — we have that option here also, but I thought better to use only your .dll’s with their own instructions.
I have screen captures now also. Both 1.02 and 1.03 turned various surrounds near borders to black (looked nice, to be honest). This only happens during REAPER’s normal ‘clear cache and scan’ in Prefs. It does not happen on quick scan when REAPER first boots. Neither does it occur when your plugin is chosen from browser and installed to track. In fact, the easiest way to return the skin to its normal colour is to choose the plugin for a track and click the install.
The NoGUI version caused none of this.
The performance of all versions seemed normal to me. I am very impressed with this new plugin to be honest. I know a good deal about vacuum tubes, and although I had no time to throw everything on a scope, I was watching those meters closely and output from tube to tube and including voltages seemed very close to real-world experience. This plugin will be well-received I believe when all is said and done.
However, there is more. It’s been some time and many plugins and matters later since I first tested this plugin. My memory is now refreshed. There is a small yet concerning DC pop when activating certain controls. I expect you may be aware. On the tube selection and voltage selection, to a lessor degree on the Oversample feature also. On the loudest, I am registering anywhere from -18dB to -24dB when these controls are activated or switched. Most frequent value turned out to be -19dBFS. I had hoped that your Normalise control would mitigate some of this, but I saw little if any difference. Knowing what this plugin is capable of doing for sound enhancement, it is something I could learn to live with; however, I expect it is just loud enough to annoy some users. There is no pop when choosing the microfarad resistor types. There are very small pops or clicks when the Gain is increased and each succeeding ‘LED’ is activated; however, much lower in volume and nice character. I wouldn’t bother with those there.
Last, I performed one other important test with all before taking them into REAPER. I have the old, abandoned and withdrawn-from-market edition of Cantible — it’s version 1.1. Good for several functions, I first test plugins there, watching how they scan and load. Huge-library plugins can cause it grief, but more important plugins with any bugs can cause real trouble, up to the point of crashing this primitive host. Your versions caused it to ‘choke’ rather badly when on a formal scan, and it even disappeared from the screen for half a second. Some cause for concern but didn’t crash and did load your plugins later. Related and interesting, REAPER no longer ‘flutters’ or acts strangely like this when on the cache scan as it did with your 1.01. Some good news I guess. If users watched these scans more carefully, they would know better if there will be trouble with a plugin down the road.
I don’t think I can load or link the screen photos here, and I’m online with a Linux machine which is having fits lately with DropBox. I will go to your Russian web page shortly to see if it has a contact option and mail them. Otherwise, please advise if you are interested in having before and after looks at them. Nothing too remarkable, simply what I said earlier.
I’ll await your response. Glad to help. Great plugin really, just what I’ve been waiting to see in this area! Also, I have a friend who is a tube sim expert I’d like to connect you with sometime. Just to say hello. You two are not in direct competition; in fact, some of his users would lve to try this plugin in front of his amps for a fuller ‘metal amp’ sound. He did most of the early digital tube work for Marshall. Maybe the first to really nail the sim of the ECC33 100%. Lived in Estonia for a while, too, but back in UK now for business reasons.
Cheers, and let me know if I can aid further,
The Telenator
The TelenatorFortunately, I had the original download of the plugin still on a flash drive; and there it was — v1.01, the plugin with the potential floating-point underflow, the symptoms of which I believe I may have witnessed in action for the first and only time in my life. It was odd that something ‘clicked’ when you mentioned this possibility.
Yes, I jumped on the bandwagon at D.C. 2012 rather early on this year, having been tipped off that there were going to be a slew of interesting new VSTs. Now, I see that you have released not one but two revisions in the space of under a month. I’m wondering if I should bother with the 1.02 or go straight for the latest, 1.03, that is posted now. I may try both, but no matter I hope to keep and use the v1.03 since it’s had the most revision and is the latest.
I got in a little later than planned but will try them in a few minutes and say more soon. If the 1.03 has no issues in REAPER, I’ll try in Podium also and the somewhat fickle Ableton Live after that. You stated I should load the v1.02 and I ought to start with that one assuming it’s still available. I should have a more definitive answer shortly, too, but it appears you guessed this one correctly from the start.
Thanks Again,
Tele
The TelenatorAXP, your response has emboldened me to some degree. I’m not at my recording laptop currently but will check and confirm all you requested.
I downloaded the plugin directly from the DC2012 link. Do check it with Rado-darko skin as well if you get a chance. It’s really a slimmer variation of the VOX skin and very much worth trying on for size. I can’t decide which of the two I like best. Both display excellent layouts and controls on the tracks, conservative but pleasant graphics and colour opportunities.
I’ve grown so curious now, as I can tell you’ve got an inherently clever design and character to this plugin. I’m familiar with most of what’s available in this type. Among some of my dev friends, perfect tube simulation is one of the badges of honor, proving you have ‘arrived’ to the top echelons of design (but I expect you knew this). Another is impeccable UI design, which I saw in your plugin. Do have a look at Frits’ UI for Podium if you haven’t already — another outstanding creation.
This topic falls as much under DAW-related news as it does anything else. I expect no worries in this department. I try to post relevant news bits that I think will interest Podium users when time allows, especially items not well-published or known at time of posting. Many of us here are various grades of starving artist or the frugal, so freeware tends to draw our interest strongly!
In any case, your first possible explanation sounded very likely. I might say, that’s a bit what it ‘looked like’. On my end, I did recall that I have been running my graphics clock 20MHz lower than spec (toying with a kernel experiment lately), but still loading such a light to average UI shouldn’t have made my graphics chip climb to the max in any case. Ah, but then one never knows. I’ve reset it to the factory numbers now. Of course, the planets may have been in alignment that evening too, and I wasn’t informed of that either. So dodgy these PCs at times, but when you have them humming along perfectly . . .
I’m feeling up to trying it again. I’ve seen worse things happen after all. I was able to repeat the occurrence, so perhaps I can again. I’ve had very smooth sailing with that particular PC for months now, so I can’t account for it otherwise. I will look into all this once I’m on the other machine this evening. I never knew back when I converted to digital that we’d have to be part detective from time to time.
Cheers!
The TelenatorWriting in extra length and detail doesn’t seem to have helped. For your first remark you offered no examples, so I’m not going to respond to it.
Let me cut right to the chase here. There are several very important features missing on Podium that we have to assume will be same and missing on any tablet launch. I will list some here. We must assume Podium will have some serious competition on tablet. If not next month, then certainly within a year. Therefore it would be extremely wise to bring Podium up to 2012, as I’m assuming we all want Podium to be considered a top DAW and one of the best.
Here are some features that we are waiting until the ext ice age to see in Podium, in no particular order and off the top of my head, so omissions may exist:
Pre-Count on that metronome (every DAW has this, everyone should know why);
On-Screen keyboard (I think every top DAW has this, now it is even more needed if its going to be on a tablet; no one will always have their keyboard with them; I no longer need this feature but am thinking of the newbies and the broke musicians who flock to the cheaper DAWS);
Better Routing (no one is asking for the world here, REAPER already IS the new earth in this department, but more flexible routing is a total no-brainer. Podium must allow recording of ANYTHING plugins produce whether audio or MIDI on the track used, should be able to send it wherever needed, etc.; we should be able to route MIDI without having to install junk fixes such as MidiYoke, etc. JUST take a look at REAPER and other top DAWs’ abilities and maybe give us 75% of that soon);
A modern PLAIN-ENGLISH user manual;
Lines for markers, so you can follow them all the way down to track 14, 20, etc.;
Multi-track edit selection, if desired, when editing (called bundling, ripple, and other terms elsewhere);
Dithering (come on, even the freebie sound editors like Audacity come with this nowadays — without it you CANNOT do a final render in Podium, you can’t finish a project in Podium, believe it or not!!!);
How about better file acceptance? flac, mp3, whatever, and all the WAV types and sample sizes;
Global MIDI learn and some true MIDI effects additions;
Master tempo automation.
I’m sure I have missed at least one ‘must-have’ feature. Go check the features lists for better info and details.
I’m going to place Time-Stretching in the ‘Fancy Dept.” if only because I know how much work it is to create and also that not all the better DAWs have it yet or have it working right yet. How about a promise of Time-Stretching in two years MAX.? (Of course, this is for other users; I expect I’ll have bought Melodyne or something to fix this by then).
Several other fancy features that it is reasonable not to insist on at this point. Let’s just get at the basic lackings here, shall we? I might argue that these basics are going to be more demanded on a tablet than we users are patiently requesting now. I believe the general tablet user (not us) will be about 10X less forgiving and loyal. Think about it. iPad and iPhone have users spoiled rotten already. A zillion apps, why stay with yours and not one of the dozen others of same type?
Finally, I understand all the issues and problems. I’ve had to work in some high-paying bands that I practically hated, just in order to keep my other band where my real music and heart was functioning, while it lost money. It’s the reality of of the art world sometimes. In any case, I think we’d all rather not see things get any worse here. You want it on a tablet? Fine — fix it first.
The TelenatorAXP, I can’t tell you how glad I am that you contacted. Let me post the basics here, for our other readers as well, and when time allows I’ll reach you privately if needed.
Your OD plugin looked right away to me to be one of the most promising of its sort. Only one other I know of allows choice of tube (and I think that one was a full amp sim if I recall). I felt your controls on the plugin were of a more intelligent design as well.
All of my exploration of your VST came on REAPER, one of the most resistant DAWs in existence to crashing from plugin use. Although Podium here is a personal favourite, I tend to experiment with all the new stuff and potential problems on REAPER first because it is so forgiving.
I launched your plug three times there. It did seem that this DAW took a somewhat long time to scan it into the cache when I performed a ‘clear cache’ and re-scan of all. Not sure. I then was eager to try it, so I proceeded to place it on a track. Then the surprise. REAPER ‘fluttered’, the entire screen went black for a moment. My first thought was, well, this plug is crashing REAPER (something that is a rather rare event, if you follow the forum over there).
But instead of going to blue screen as most users’ systems do, or a frozen screen as my PC will instead, the DAW came back up to functioning; however, I saw right away some very unusual graphics display. I should mention I had no other plugins or tracks going; I was using a most basic setup just to try your plugin. I can’t find any other factors to account for what happened. Apparently, the plugin had turned to colour black many of the frames and window portions of REAPER. Suddenly I’m looking at a very different skin! (I was using the reliable Rado-VOX skin the first test and Rado-darko the next two, both skins that have had no bug reports in the 2 or so years they have been in existence.)
My first thought was, Oh, this is very bad. I’ve had plugins crash a DAW and PC, I’ve experienced all the usual that all of us have, but never the odd screen flutter, partial or temporary shutdown or crash, then a return to function with several areas turned to black. Being not much of a gambler or risk-taker, I left off with anything further regarding your plugin, and instead (after fully removing it from its folder) returned to REAPER to make sure everything went back to normal and that there was no permanent damage done, which I can say happily there was none (afaik).
As you should be well aware, there are always several products among the many in these annual KVR shows that somehow misfire. The Orchestral Strings One (same outfit as the #2 all-time rated by KVR, the PIanoOne) didn’t work at all. It would load its 500Mb and make only one ugly sound. Reports are it has since been fixed. And there were a few other issues with plugins this year as well.
I use my DAWs — Podium, REAPER, Ableton Live 8 — everything in 32-bit on a Win7 64-bit machine with all SSE certificates, tonnes of HDD space and 2.2 gig dual core Intel. Not a newbie to anything really either. I have tested and used some 500 or more plugins of every sort at this point, currently maintaining 40 instruments and about 80 of my favourite effects plugins, all both freeware and now up to about 35% commercial these days. I have pretty much seen it all. Used to use Cubase 4 also, before leaving them because of 4’s constant plugin issues and other matters.
I thought the basic design of your new OD plugin was brilliant actually, from the minute I looked over the UI and saw what you were doing with this. Both for tracking, using various saturation plugins, and guitar, having several of the popular OD plugins for use with S-Gear amps, I find the best of this variety of plugins indispensable.
I’ve been hoping that your plugin has some very minor weird bit of code to it that can be spotted and fixed. I have never seen a plugin have the ability to do what yours did — both ‘flutter’ the PC screen then replace colours in any DAW. Again, as regards plugins, REAPER is well-known to be most forgiving of practically any DAW. I did not want to risk it but wondered if a full crash would have resulted trying this on another. Sorry, but I can’t offer any unusual info here — my setup is very normal and stable with no odd features to report. Best wishes with this. I’d love to employ your plugin at some later date!
Cheers!
Tele
The TelenatorFrits wrote:
I’m not going to use wordpress.com as host though. I will set up my own WordPress install, so the site address will continue to be zynewave.com.
That’s exactly the way I do it. Private host using WordPress’ ‘machinery’. I wasn’t sure at first if they — WordPress — would leave me alone and let me publish as many pages as needed and go ab out conducting my business, but they totally have. I heard as long as you don’t do threatening, revolutionary or illegal acts that they let you do pretty much whatever you need.
Yeah, there are something like 1200 graphics/style choices currently. You always find something you like. It is also very easy to hook up sub-hosts for music players and photos, etc. You can tie SoundCloud to your pages (although I’m using VibeDeck instead right now for the player and downloader).
The TelenatorYes, understood. And it was the Yohng GUI version I got rid of. I could not recall his name. Regardless of what it is cloned from, it just did not sound any more than dull and average. Then you add the controls issue into it. Now, that Sir Elliot Peak Limiter II even has an extra protection circuit built into it.
You mentioned the NastyVCS. I ditched a couple of other very regular channel strips in order to keep and use this VCS instead. It has every tool I could need in that spot; it’s like a channel strip on steroids.
After all this discussion recently, I decided to go looking for a couple of older and discontinued Nasty plugins — NastyVSD and NastyCS. No can find, but I’m thinking one of my flash drives has them. A Virtual Summing Device and a more run of the mill Channel Strip and with really no level protection. I nearly blew things up with the CS once. I learned to be very careful. There is no protection yet much boost in some of the little buttons next to the meter on CS.