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Oh! So sorry — I just caught the part about you actually SENDING them 32 bit. Oh no, I doubt their machinery can do that well and that could account for this noise you mention. Even if they can, technically, handle it, I wouldn’t trust them to it.

You should only be sending an outfit like this 16-bit WAV at no more than 44.1k. That is the only safe WAV to pipe to anybody over the internet at our current state of things.

Hey Chris, I know this comes with quite a delay after you posted your most recent comment here — for one, I don’t end up in the Podium Free section of this forum very often — but I wanted to say Thank You for your compliment.

The forum is a home page on one of my most-used browsers, so there it is each time I head for my mail. More than that, though, my high volume of posting here at the Zynewave forum is deliberate; I’ve figured out my schedule for pretty much the whole year, and I’ll be too busy at many points to hang out here or say much. Recently also I became sort of fed up with a few of the attitudes at a couple of the other forums and left off of them, at least for the foreseeable future.

Regarding the ‘advice’ you mentioned, I’m really fortunate to have reached a spot in my life where I’ve got years and years of accumulated knowledge and experience and can share it in a place like this. I’ve actually learned a couple very important bits of info from others in the time I’ve been here. One great example is that I got turned on to a few critical plugins I’d somehow missed in all my searching that have both made my collection super complete and have also allowed me to toss a handful of lessor quality ones that I feared letting go of before this. This was all thanks to another member who is seasoned in the field of digital audio and production.

So a lot of what I’ve been doing is merely returning the favour. Add to that the fact that I have very often learned things the hard way in the past, and I want to get as much ‘mileage’ out of the hard-won knowledge by sharing what I’ve learned here. It seems to me, we have a nice assortment of forum members and Podium users who are somewhat younger and considerably newer to recording and the proper mangling of the captured music.

I feel for ya, infinitoar. I really didn’t hop on the forum tonight to post, but I had a job canceled, giving me some unexpected free time. Seeing your thread, I feel the need to chime in here and offer a few things that can prevent most of the damage next time this happens — and if you intend to keep up your current heavy workload with any DAW, it will happen again.

First off and the most important thing I can offer: You CAN save multiple copies, external drives and anywhere you want. Just click Save As again and choose another location. Your PC should ‘see’ your external Terabyte MonsterDrive and offer it among the dropdown options. Internally, if you choose another location and click it again, it creates a true separate copy, not some mere virtual or mirror file. That will cover your pod file; for the WAV tracks, I glue all my edits together at a good save point and copy them each to another location as well. I only do the things I’m saying here today for serious projects — other people’s projects and my own that I might want to release publicly at some point. Too much work otherwise!

Second, the thing I do even more often, once I’ve got past setup and have started adding hot tracks is that I save in the normal location a true copy by hitting Save As and merely adding a number like 2 or II or whatever. I only re-save that renamed copy from my original version at later times when I add something truly significant, such as new music or major editing. It saves time and effort, and if the original gets messed you can always fix little changes on your copies.

Frits wants to add a bak file function. He brought this up himself. It was connected with talks about features and I believe his desire to update the way some of the filing works in Podium. I’m kinda guessing now that this backup addition is going to happen sooner than later!

Finally and most important: You can run but you cannot hide. I mean by this that every DAW eats users’ files. My Cubase used to do it a lot and then freeze my computer to rub it in. Be glad it doesn’t happen often with Podium; be glad you don’t have to do an abnormal shutdown of your PC and then reboot too just to get free. Again, they ALL do it for several different reasons. And if any have this backup function (and I know many that do), you can still loose a load of work anyway in between in the cycle of backups. A few have a fixed cycle, some have limited settings. Some can interfere with work you may be doing, etc., etc.

You should still have all your WAV files. I’ve done it before and it is a pain, but you ought to be able to drag them all back to a new project. I am always 100% aware of where all my WAV files are being kept, whether I’ve put them in the project folder or anywhere else. Then I can grab them super quick. I learned to never get screwed again when it happened to me. I’ve seen so many problems with so many PCs over the years (MACs mess up too — don’t believe that myth), not just my own, that I don’t trust any of them to behave, no matter how expensive the machine is, and same with the best software. They are just like genius 2-year-olds — always ready to have a tantrum. I don’t care which DAW you use, always watch your back. I sure do.

Until the state of the art takes some weird huge step into the Star Trek future, this and a couple of other chronic issues will follow all of us who are insane enough to manipulate audio on computers.

All the Best! Cheers!

Nice work, adimatis! Please post to the Podium Poppets group on SoundCloud. We need you there!

Edited to add: Unless they have changed anything very lately, one of the nice things about that site is that you can upload WAV files and they do a slow but immediate conversion and put it to (I think) 320kbs MP3.