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Thanks for your encouraging feedback guys 🙂

this track is now complete:

This would be cool!

I have always had in my imagination an idea where you can sorta use the piano roll as a direct sampler…. It’s a bit simpler than your idea, but maybe a precursor it…

You would basically drag wavs onto the piano roll and where the bar for the note is normally shown, it would instead show a wave which you can drag to what size you want… Also you would be able to change the fade in/out etc here too… Obviously like a sampler you would have to determine the pitch of the tune first before you go playing with it on the piano roll, unless it had auto detection like melodyne or soemthing..

In the track view, because you can’t see the piano roll, you would see the sample with C2, or G#3 or whatever note it was written on it…
This would be well intuitive and quite easy to grasp, also look and feel good since you always see the samples you are working with…

Yeah definitely it’s an aquired taste, I kind of matured into working this way, after getting quite confused at first. I just went a bit mad scientist on my templates, then had to play catch up with myself. But I kind of build these templates as sorta instruments in their own right, that I have to learn to play like any instrument in the real world. And nowadays it is starting to just looks natural to me, especially with the streamlined way that podium presents the screen to me…

which is back to square one anyay because once you’ve taken 3 of the same sample you end up layering through 3 seperate channels with their own fx chains again, so what’s the difference really??

And worse still, if your resampling multiple times, then your going to end up having to repeat this process again and again, each time splitting the sample with filters that are going to effect the phase relationship again and again. Surely it’s better to just split the sample once if possible and then take that split as far as possible instead of bouncing it then having to split it again and so on so forth…

Yup, quite easily… Some top producers resample specific sounds around 5 or 6 times, noisia being one such example… If you can imagine the sample going through 2 or 3 effects every time it’s quite easy to imagine it going through about 15 effects by the times it’s done…. Only difference is I do it all in one cycle instead of resampling (and maybe don’t get quite as nice sounds as noisia out lol)…

Here is my old drum template for processing breaks (cleaning, compressing etc), mainly old funk breaks into more modern harder hitting drums, it doesn’t hit 15 but comes close – 13 I think ( I have a bass template that does but I don’t wish to give away the secret!)….. I do parallel distortion, parallel compression, and waveshaping around particular resonant harmonics (I do this with ephonic lofi in my newer template). I anaylse at several points to see how the frequencies are effected post processing and it would be a pain to keep adding and removing Span instances. I also reshape the volume envelopes (kinda like manual expansion) around particular frequency layers so that different frequencies hit at different times – for creating snap/splash/crack etc – whatever you want out of a snare or drum hit. I colour code the various parts of the template so that I can become more familiar with what is where in my template, and try and learn the templates structure inside out….

Sure I could use more sends? But then wouldn’t that just make things more complicated and messy then being able to just look from bottom to top, right to left, to see what my chains look like.

The type of music I make is kinda highly fetishisist in terms of trying to create hyperreal sounds that aren’t neccessarily natural, but sort of have a concentrated saturated essence of what actually makes that particular sound.

My new drums can be heard in the following works in progress: , http://www.xis23.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nettle2.mp3 , http://www.xis23.com/3rdnew2.mp3 , http://www.xis23..blueyonder.pwp.co.uk/mod.mp3

Hopefully as I learn my templates inside out I should get better…

I hit the 30 effect limit sometimes! With old plugins that don’t support latency comprensation, sometimes I have to add dummy plugins that are 100% dry so that the phase between different layers stays the same… With complex layering, over half of the plugins end up being dummy plugins that I use just to maintain phase…

oopsy meant to put my other post here:

http://www.xis23.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sphynx.mp3

First track I’ve finished with podium really. It’s kind of egyptian neurofunk