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@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Navigator looks great!
My only gripe is that the “snapshot preview” is rather hard to see most of the time, but especially when previewing a snapshot that’s smaller than the current zoom range.

Can you really tell where it is in this picture (thumbnail)?

My suggestion: Instead of showing both the current zoom range and the preview, temporarily remove the zoom pane and only highlight the snapshot area. The current snapshot preview doesn’t have the zoom pane’s handles, so I think the chance of someone mistaking it for the actual zoom pane is not very high anyway.

Good suggestion. Try the new beta5.

Beta5 also has a few bug fixes. If no bugs are reported for this beta, I’ll release 2.25 this weekend.

Follow focus track is nice too, but as expected, it doesn’t work with the embedded editor.
I thought about suggesting the tracks view should scroll to the focus track whenever it gets out of view (unless you manually scroll away from it, of course) – if you didn’t want that, you could just disable follow focus track on the ‘Editor’ editor profile.
…However, this poses another problem, as the event opened in the editor is not necessarily on the focus track at all. 😕

So the best solution I can think of right now would be reworking it to just “Follow Selection” – as in follow whatever is actively selected (track or event)… I think that’d work very well. :-k

The purpose of the “Follow focus track” option, is to link track navigation between the mixer and the tracks region. I think extending it to react to event selection can result in mysterious scrolls, as long as it is possible to select events on other than the focus track.

@Mike G wrote:

– When trying to zoom out past the ends of the current selection It’s harder to zoom out so that you can add more stuff after the end of the current arrangement, much harder than it was with a scroll bar. I will just add the scroll bar back in in my profile but wonder if the default setup could be made better. Can you think of a way of making this work in the navigator in an intuitive way?
The bext idea I can come up with is to allow scrolling of the navigator past the end of the last item in the arrangement.

I’ve enabled dragging the zoom pane beyond the length of the arrangement. I think it works ok.

@Mike G wrote:

– I’m not sure “Snapshot” is the best name, sounds like a freeze/bounce feature!! How about “Zoom setting”, or “navigator setting” or “Zoom notch”…?

Really? I thought the word snapshot was appropriate in the sense that it is a photographic snapshot of the zoom pane in the navigator. It may be more obvious with the snapshot mouse-over highlighting in the new beta4. Anyone else think that “zoom snapshot” is a misnomer?

– When trying to zoom out past the ends of the current selection It’s harder to zoom out so that you can add more stuff after the end of the current arrangement, much harder than it was with a scroll bar. I will just add the scroll bar back in in my profile but wonder if the default setup could be made better. Can you think of a way of making this work in the navigator in an intuitive way?
The bext idea I can come up with is to allow scrolling of the navigator past the end of the last item in the arrangement.

Is that because you use the horizontal zoom slider or the rightmost arrow button on the scrollbar? I mostly use the mouse wheel over the timeline ruler or the navigator to quickly zoom out and then zoom in on the new section. Sometimes I also use the Shift+Alt shortcut for the slide tool.

– I still keep thinking that the editor profile buttons belong at the top near to all the other “view” options/menus etc…
(…Ctd – Pause to wash a baby!)
Basically to me it feels that the editor profile buttons should control all that is below them. Lik emost of the other view options at the top of the screen. It particularly feels odd when you click “Big transport” and the profile buttons all jump away from where they were.
In know last time I suggested this it was for different reasons (I wanted to claim back the space taken up by the buttons)
Anyway i’d be interested to see what others think.

Considering the way that the profiles are implemented, it would make sense to put them at the top, as a container for the entire editor. I placed them at the bottom because then they are closer to the editor/mixer/transport, which is the only part that is different in the default profiles. Less distance to move your mouse.

Beta4 is up:

The .pod file format is updated with the zoom snapshots, so back up your projects before saving them with this beta, in case you need to go back to 2.24.

Press Shift+1..9 to recall a snapshot.

Moved the “follow focus track” and “follow control surface” options from the mixer menu to the editor View menu. This means that the options now apply to both the tracks region and the mixer.

I’ve modified the way that the zoom range is displayed in the navigator. Hovering the mouse over a snapshot button will highlight the zoom range in the navigator. Let me know what you think of the new style.

@UncleAge wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

• Added a favorite folder “+” button to the file browser toolbar.

I clicked the Browser button. The area already had 3 favorite buttons in place. Next I kept clicking the “+” button until there were 9 favorites added, all of the them the same folder. When I did this a couple of things seemed strange.

1. The “+” button disappeared. Now maybe this is ok since there wasn’t any room left in that area for another button. And I have no problem with the arbitrary number of 9 for favorites, but…

2. All of the “newly added” buttons were highlighted, seemingly as a group. So selecting any of them selected all of them.

3. I could not find a way to delete any of the favorite buttons. Any of them.

Obviously some part of this is a bug.

Thanks for the walkthrough. Favorites and zoom snapshots can be deleted by Alt+clicking the button, as mentioned in the popup help for those buttons. You can also delete the favorites in the “Favorite Folders” setup dialog. I’ve now made further changes that should make it easier to get through the problems you experienced:

The “+” buttons for both the favorites and zoom snapshots now only produce a new shortcut button if it does not already exist. When the + button is inactive it is indicated by a dimmed + image on the button.

The favorite buttons can now be right-clicked to show a menu similar to the one for the zoom snapshots and editor profile bar. In this menu you have a command for deleting the favorite.

This is available in beta2, which I just uploaded.

Also in beta2: Clicking a favorite folder or zoom snapshot button a second time will revert to the previous folder/zoom.

@LiquidProj3ct wrote:

Please, don’t misinterpret me: I think that they will be useful for other people but not for me, because I use 10-12 tracks as max for a song of 5-7 minutes.

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, the snapshots are mostly intended for navigation in large arrangements with many tracks. You can create a snapshot where the vertical zoom is at 0%, so that you can quickly get an overview of all the tracks, and zoom in on the area you want to work on. You can also create zoomed-in snapshots of e.g. drum tracks, bass tracks, vocal tracks and so on, so that you can quickly switch between these different sections.

Preview 2.25: Zoom snapshots & revised track height zoom