@druid wrote:
Weeelllll…. I don’t know. 😛 So are the algorithms that allow markers in audio (in order to stretch sections of the audio file differently) only good for rough estimates, or can they be production quality?
Often the best quality can be gained if you allow rough stretching to markers. Note that it’s often only a few millisecs variance, so barely audible. If you try to force the stretching to sample precise boundaries you can get reduced quality.
@moikkelis wrote:
Well maybe i am just extremely stupid, but in single left click i can only move that play marker, i want to move that “playing reading” cursor whatever its named. 😯
When using the default color scheme: The edit cursor is blue. When playback is running you see a play cursor that is green or red depending on whether recording is enabed.
When the “link edit cursor to play cursor” menu option is disabled, moving the edit cursor with the mouse or key shortcuts will not affect playback. When playback stops, the play cursor will disappear, and the next time you start playback it will start from the edit cursor position.
If the “link edit cursor to play cursor” option is enabled, then the edit cursor will disappear when the play cursor starts moving. Try to imagine that the edit cursor is locked under the play cursor. If you click and drag you temporarily detach the edit cursor from the play cursor, and as soon as you release the mouse, playback will jump to where you released the edit cursor.
@moikkelis wrote:
But.. I notice podium use even more cpu than FL Studio. Both, in my primary computer and laptop. Really dont know why. I cannot bealive it cause everyone keep saying that podium is light on cpu 🙄
My primary computer is intel 6700 Quad @ 3.2 ghz and 4 gig ram. Using Xp32bit. Laptop (my wife’s) is core2duo 1.6ghz and 2gig ram. Its using 32bit vista.
And that cpu mixing meter it’s jumping alot! example in 10% suddenly in 30%. Am i only one?
The only reliable way of comparing the CPU efficiency of different hosts, is to create identical projects with similar setup of plugins, and then see how many tracks/plugins you can add before you hear glitches in the sound.
I have coded the CPU indicator in Podium to be very sensitive to CPU spikes. Other hosts may show a CPU usage that is averaged over a longer period. That doesn’t mean the Podium engine is less efficient, just that you get a snappier indication of potential CPU spike overloads.
Looking at the CPU usage in the Windows Task Manager can also be misleading, as this will show the CPU usage of both the audio engine and the UI. Podiums UI may use more CPU than other hosts, but it has been programmed to reduce this CPU usage (resulting in less fluent animations) if the audio engine requires more CPU.
@moikkelis wrote:
Now i have enabled “edit only selected events”, in screenshot i have choose 2 notes, but when i change the volume, only one volume will change. How about if by choosing notegroups and then i try to change volume, it would affect all selected notes?
Or is there already this feature? 😆
Currently you can’t offset the values of all events with the mouse, unless you click+drag across the selected events in the velocity region.
You can use the +/- key shortcuts to offset the velocity of all selected events.
@moikkelis wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
If you disable the “link edit cursor to play cursor” option in the view menu (or the timeline right-click menu), then Podium will restart from where you place the edit cursor. In fact you don’t even have to stop playback. Pressing play repeatedly will restart playback from the edit cursor. This also works with the numpad enter key.
Like i said, i can always move those markes, but in longer run this just slows down your working…
Maybe I misunderstood you. What I was talking about had nothing to do with setting markers, loop and punch ranges. I was talking about the edit/play cursor.
If your mouse has a middle button, pressing that in any of the timeline areas will place the edit cursor.
Yes i have, when i press it, nothing happen?
If you click within the timeline area of for example the tracks region, it should position the edit cursor when you click+drag the mouse.
You can also configure the timeline ruler to work as a single-click positioning of the edit cursor, instead of the default timeline slide action: Open “editor profile properties” in the view menu. Select the “timeline ruler – cursor” region, and press “properties”. Disable the “left-click to slide timeline” option.
done, no luck there. I want to use just one left mouse click to change that play cursor. fast and easy way you know.
Note that you have to click on the timeline ruler. If you followed my descriptions, then you should see a normal mouse cursor instead of the hand cursor when you move the mouse over the timeline ruler. Single clicking here (and click+drag) will position the edit cursor. Note that if you have snap activated, then the cursor may snap to a grid line outside your current zoom range.
And i found another thing, which i mention before. I found on that mixer setup, there is different things. Douple click option, can i have there “reset default value” option??? This would be very useful on reseting mixer values.
Those actions only apply to the device selectors, and not the other slider/dial controls. The default behaviour is to use ctrl+click to restore a control to its default value. That applies to all controls in the entire Podium UI. I’d like to keep that behaviour consistent. Double-clicking a control will in some places open the properties dialog with key focus set to the value input for the double-clicked control.
When i set up those volumes, where is values? Yes i can make bigger that volumebar, but again, is this necessary? If pianoroll or that info window can tell the value automaticly, its save’s time (again).
Adding popup display of the value is on my future plan.
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
Are you planning to include time-stretching now (I imagine that’d be a pretty huge task) or are you just collecting ideas? 🙂
Just collecting ideas.
@druid wrote:
Obviously it would be easier to split the sound files (I mean within the engine, not how the user handles it) but would there be an audio advantage in not internally splitting them and treating them separately, but trying to calculate it as one smooth process? Is that even possible? What I mean is, if they’re treated as separate, couldn’t there be cases where the last sample of the previous one does not match up to the next one, and therefore not seamlessly continue?
It depends on the type of time stretching algo applied. Some algos does not allow sample precise repositioning, due to the fact that the algo processes the audio in small variable sized buffers of samples. So I guess that would make the splitting of sound events on tracks difficult to implement, without getting gaps in the sound. Using markers inside a sound allows for a rough estimated non-sample precise stretching.
One advantage with the splitting of events on tracks, is that you can use the same sound/loop several places and stretch it differently. If the stretching is done with markers inside the sound, then that stretching will be applied whenever you use the sound.
The MIDI file format does not support storing the curve properties that Podium uses. So it can only store single points (bars). Podium saves one point for each event in the curve. If you want a finer resolution of points in the MIDI file, you can use the “transform to grid aligned points” edit command, save the MIDI file, and then undo the transform to get your smooth curve back.
If you disable the “link edit cursor to play cursor” option in the view menu (or the timeline right-click menu), then Podium will restart from where you place the edit cursor. In fact you don’t even have to stop playback. Pressing play repeatedly will restart playback from the edit cursor. This also works with the numpad enter key.
About the play cursor grabbing:
If your mouse has a middle button, pressing that in any of the timeline areas will place the edit cursor.
You can also configure the timeline ruler to work as a single-click positioning of the edit cursor, instead of the default timeline slide action: Open “editor profile properties” in the view menu. Select the “timeline ruler – cursor” region, and press “properties”. Disable the “left-click to slide timeline” option.
@druid wrote:
Does that make sense?
Yes, I think this feature will be expected. I believe most other hosts have this feature as well.
What I have been thinking about, is whether it’s best to implement this as markers inside the sound, or as multiple sliced sound events on the track. When the mouse is placed over one of these slices, a new drag box (in addition to the existing four drag boxes in each corner) can be shown in the middle of two joined events. Dragging this would resize/stretch both events. This would also work for note and curve sequence events.
@Rottweiler wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
I assume you mean the right part of the toolbar. You can configure the toolbar and add/remove any controls you want. I could add shortcut buttons for switching between the editor profiles. That would in effect give you the buttons you want.
I checked it and nope, i thought about the empty space next to the timeline at the left, above the track names.
I have plans for adding controls for a snapshot feature in the space to the left of the navigator. The space left of the marker and tempo lanes show the value at the zoomed timeline start.
Some of the features I have worked on the last months have pushed this a bit back. Would you say support for MIDI plugins is more important than time-stretching?
@Rottweiler wrote:
1. I like the new navigation stuff, but can the previous scroll used too?
Yes. Open the “editor profile properties” from the view menu, and insert a “scrollbar” region where you want it.
2. The “marker” part of the timeline ruler taking up unnecessary space (not much, maybe an inch, but still) , could it be switched off with a button?
3. The new navigation stuff should be switchable too, cause theres not much space to look at the arrangement.
You can achieve that by setting up multiple editor profiles. You can create a copy of the default arrangement profile, and remove the navigator, marker, tempo, mixer, embedded editor, etc. to have a profile that uses the maximum space for the tracks region. You can then switch between the profiles using the view menu, or the F8/Shift+F8 shortcut keys.
4. Lot of empty space at the top of the arrangement section (!) , maybe there would be space for hotbuttons to customize the interface? It would enable fast switching :).
For example a button to on/off the new navigation section, on/off the scrollbars, show/hide the mixer instead of dragging etc… Would make life so much faster!
I assume you mean the right part of the toolbar. You can configure the toolbar and add/remove any controls you want. I could add shortcut buttons for switching between the editor profiles. That would in effect give you the buttons you want.
@druid wrote:
Podium, when receiving a MIDI signal, usually flashes on the sidebar, but I got no flashes.
That only flashes when receiving/sending via the MIDI interfaces. Not plugins.
Is there another plugin I can try, or something I forgot to do to try this out for you?
Well, it’s kind of funny, but LiquidProj3ct reported this exact feature as a problem in the latest 2.17 release topic. He is using Poise, so I guess you could try that too 😉