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@darcyb62 wrote:

Actually I think the Compact Track Layout does a decent job of simplifying things but I find the list of sends/plugins redundant with the improvements that have been made to the track inspector. All I would like to see there is the pan/gain and assortment of mute/solo/bounce/e buttons.

The problem with the list in the compact track layout is that you lose visibility once you add a couple of sends/plugins. Maybe not so important but why duplicate functionality that is handled so well in the inspector. Maybe all that is needed is the meter and buttons…

I can understand why you’d like a clean track header, if you prefer to work with the inspector and mixer. But there are others who have said they don’t like the inspector, and would prefer a way to work without it. The benefit with showing the sends and plugins on the headers is that you can see the assignments on all visible tracks. With the inspector you need to select a track before you can see the effects chain. Maybe I’ll add an option to hide the chain panels.

One thing I noticed is that if I create a new group track I cannot copy other tracks onto the group.

The track menus are not fully implemented yet. I’ll keep this one in mind.

@estwing wrote:

I’m not sure if the compact view in the inspector is useful to me,the commands to move tracks are precise but I generally drag them around the main screen (and use “undo” when i drop them in the wrong place)

That’s cool. You can just hide the group panel in the inspector view menu. But what about the new compact track headers, with the list of sends/plugins and the pan dial and gain slider. Is this useful to you?

Thanks for the feedback.

@darcyb62 wrote:

I haven’t spent much time with Podium for the last while but have been keeping tabs and the one thing that comes to mind, is that as Podianer has said, it seems to becoming more complex. For somebody just getting into Podium, there is a rather steep learning curve that some people just never seem to get. In fairness without having spent much (any) time with the beta I’m not sure if there adding or removing complexity.

I sure hope that it is removing complexity. That is the whole point of the new compact mode. If you look at the latest screenshot I posted, I would appreciate if you could specify what it is that seems more complex. Is it the embedded list of sends and plugins? In other hosts you would typically have an “FX” button, which when pressed will open a window with the list of inserts. I think it is an advantage to have the list shown on the track header for easy access. If you don’t want it, you just size the track smaller until the panel disappears.

Eventually you will be able to do all major tasks on the track headers. You can ignore the track inspector and the mixer completely if you e.g. just want to record guitar, vocals and set up a few drum and synth plugin tracks. Users that work with a large number of tracks may prefer the overview you get by working in the mixer.

I’ve experimented with removing the pan and gain dials from inside the chain panel, and instead show them as dial and fader controls at the bottom of the lane header:

I would appreciate a little more user feedback, so please post your comments. Apart from the handful of people who have already responded, I have no idea whether the rest of the userbase thinks the new compact layout mode is a waste of time.

Oh, I have crashes rather often so I am used to !

😯 Is that Podium that crashes for you, or plugins?

With a sine test signal, the sound is clean when there is no amplitude change but there is a noise (like a zipping noise) as soon as it changes.
So with a normal sound there is always the noise.

If you bounce the master, is the zipping noise present in the bounced recording?

The zipping noise occurs both when using expanded and compact modes?

Is the Podium CPU indicator behaving differently between 1.94 and 1.95 beta?

Beta 5 is uploaded. Bus send tracks are now shown on one line instead of two. Plugin tracks have a “R” button for recording plugin editor automation. Also fixed a small graphics bug in the chain panels.

Beta 4 is uploaded. This has the chain panels on the track headers in compact mode. There are still some inconsistensies between the old track header menu and the chain panel context menus. That’s what I’m working on next. I’m also going to reduce bus send tracks to only occupy one line in the panels.

The embedded chain panels is a rather big feature I think, so please post comments.

if I converted the zPEQ track (under “Send2”) into a bounce track how would Podium draw that waveform if I wanted to bounce that zPEQ track (tap from that point in the tree) in real time? Would it overwrite the audio file to the same track in your screenshot?

Maybe I misunderstood you. If you insert a bounce track it will be shown on a separate lane, effectively splitting the chain into two halves on respectively the bounce track and the original track. I’m still thinking about methods to avoid having the bounce sound on a separate track.

So…GP (Group Panel) for the whole picture of the tree and management of all parts of the tree (all tracks) while the new “Track chain panels” in track headers are for per track micro management of tracks at track level.

Would that be a suitable summary of all the key changes in 1.95 so far in simple terms?

Yes.