Topic: Preview 2.05: Track header and inspector improvements

And one question : how do we drag a plugin from one track to another one now ?

Same way as you’ve always done, unless you refer to the old expanded mode track header?

No, when I try to drag the name of the plugin from one track to another one like before the GUI opens (or closes), but it is not copied to the new track.
The same thing happens when I want to create a new track by dragging a plugin below the existing tracks. It doesn’t work anymore.

@Zynewave wrote:

Added “slider knob visual style” combobox to the preferences dialog. Choices cover combinations of glass/solid, rectangular/round and with/without value readouts on the knob.

It’s fantastic! The Track headers look great.

@Zynewave wrote:

Another change is that the groove for the slider is filled with the parameter graduation colors (similar to the dial fills).

Again, looks great. Is this graphical feature going to be incorporated into the mixers strips as well?

@Zynewave wrote:

@acousmod wrote:

And one question : how do we drag a plugin from one track to another one now ?

Same way as you’ve always done, unless you refer to the old expanded mode track header?

Confirmed acousmod. The clipboard still works but the ability to drag-and-drop instruments/effects has disappeared.

I would expect that the ‘stub’ to the left of the instrument/effect could still be used for dragging-and-dropping.

I should say that despite my earlier post, I’m not really missing the values on the fader handles (on the Trak Headers) as much as I thought I would. 🙄

Pretty happy for the mixer to still keep this feature tho. 🙂

Hmm I like all of them but I guess I would prefer the third one. Unfortunately I don’t like small gain fader/dial. Is it possible to combine the faders from your first example with the pan/sends from the last one?

Maybe it is a good idea to use the same styling for all UI elements, for example round faders with round send/pan etc. Although I like the tidiness of the first example how about a round fader between the meter channels?

My choice…? No. 2 easily for me.

Problems with no. 1
The send buttons look far too small compared to the glass send buttons with the values on them in screenshot 2. The glass buttons provide a larger hitpoint for the cursor, look more stylish and IMO are simply more practical and easier to use IMO.

Also the design of the faders in screenshot 1, lose that critical value display and look a bit odd to me. Sorry.

Problems with No. 3.
Similar functionality (values on buttons) as no.2 but they look too ordinary and not as stylish as no. 2.

Screenshot No. 2 is defintely my first choice of the three.

I would say No. 3 would follow that.

Width of Vertical Meters:
I think Acousmod suggested thinner vertical meters…well to be honest I really don’t think there is much room for change there. 😐

Any thinnner than it is now and it might be very difficult to see the indicator lines (at -6dB, -12dB and -24dB) even now they are not that easy to make out. A thinner vertical meter might make them less than practical for any real use.

H- Mans idea for “assignable colour notches” for the indicator lines, a few posts above this one (which I agree with) somewhat highlights how difficult it can be to see them even now.

Of course an option could be added here anyway for the width of the vertical meters, but my inital thought is to keep the width of the vertical meters *as is* personally.

On another note…

Frits…you had a groovy idea…:P
I noticed that the colours used for the groove in the sliders in your screenshots do not really show case how clever this idea of yours really is…
@Zynewave wrote:

Another change is that the groove for the slider is filled with the parameter graduation colors (similar to the dial fills).

An example: Send 1 for the Guitar track in Screen shot 2 has a value of -22.00 now there should be some kind of change in the colour here.

Going all the way up to +1.12 on Send 2 for the Vocal track and again the same colour.

I used this setting…

…to get a very nice change in colour as I move the slider. Maybe a similar default setting would make this particular feature stand out much more. This setting also works very well with *any* kind of dial in Podium, Sends, zReverb, zPeq e.t.c please try it.

It provides a nice visual indicator for lower, mid or high values.

Currently I think “Glass Round” selected in preferences looks best in the mixer in the Beta2. (And I can’t figure out the difference between “Glass Round” and “Glass Round Values”, but that’s neither here nor there at the moment.)

However, I have to agree with Frits, example 1 looks better than the rest. It cleaner and easier on the eyes to me.

As of right now, in Beta2 with Glass Round selected the sends have dials in the mixer section. And when the value is changed the word “Send” dissapears and the value of the send is displayed. As long as that was the continued behavior when adjusting the sliders for the sends I could live with it.

However, my suggestion(if you go with the first example), is to just put the value of the slider directly to the right of the word “Send”. And again there could be a couple problems here. One is that I am not sure much is gained if the value is right next to the word versus displaying the value on the slider itself. The second is that instead of the send taking up 1 line of space on the mixer channel it will now take up 2 spaecs (Line 1 for the word “Send” and possibly the value and line 2 for the actual slider).

And with all that said I still like the “Look” of the first example Frits posted. The question is how to get it to work seamlessly with the rest of the UI.