Topic: when will it be possible

@Conquistador wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

Since it is a VST plugin, you can export the zGrid preset a a .fxp file and import into other projects.

Ok…yes that makes sense (as any other VST FX) but I meant would it be possible for instance to save a chain of FX like a Compressor+EQ+Chorus in the zGrid, save and then and load that into any other project?

The zGrid preset will contain both the routing of effects as well as the presets for the individual effects.

Ok, so wait. Is ZGrid something that is not there yet? I don’t see it, so I’m hoping that is not a bad question.

Brent

Cool, thanks!

@Zynewave wrote:

@Conquistador wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

Since it is a VST plugin, you can export the zGrid preset a a .fxp file and import into other projects.

Ok…yes that makes sense (as any other VST FX) but I meant would it be possible for instance to save a chain of FX like a Compressor+EQ+Chorus in the zGrid, save and then and load that into any other project?

The zGrid preset will contain both the routing of effects as well as the presets for the individual effects.

This is the best way, this way people can create complex presets in Seigrid for certain situations. For instance, people could make a preset that has their favorite filter with an LFO on it chained to a delay set at 3/16 for an instant tarnce preset. 😆

Thanks for your feedback iain.

1. Inability to load a VST and VSTi in the same track. I see how this is more like a hardware mixer, but as noted elsewhere in this thread, it’s a facility I now expect in a DAW.

You can only have one mapping on each track, but the idea is that you chain together tracks to make a chain of e.g. VSTi > VSTe > sends. This allows for more flexibility but the challenge is to make it easy to handle the setup of the chains. This is a part of the UI that I’m focusing on currently. Recently there have been a number of improvements to the mixer, and I’m continuing work on this.

2. Drag and drop from Stylus RMX was strange.

Proper support for drag and drop from plugin editors and external media browsers was implemented in 1.88/1.89. There is no demo version of these releases, but the next 1.90 will be released as a demo.

3. Waves VST plugins didn’t work properly, but I appreciate this is probably because of their Waveshell system

It’s been a long time since I last tried any Waves plugins, but from what I remember: Once you have selected a plugin from the Waves popup menu, Podium logs this code in the mapping so that the same plugin is opened the following times. To use additional Waves plugins you need to import the plugin multiple times, each time selecting a different plugin from the popup. You then won’t be bothered with the Waves popup when you assign the plugins on tracks.

On the one hand it was beautifully easy to open a plugin and select a program for it. But on the other hand the names of the VSTs were a bit of a shambles – different to how they appear in other VSTs. Multiple instances of the same VST all with the same name and further sub-categories (Stylus and Absynth are two examples of VSTs that looked confusing).

These are “global” plugins (as opposed to “insert” plugins). They have multiple mappings that you use to access the same instance of the plugin.

Finally regarding the VSTs, Podium ‘imported’ them at length each time I opened the program – pretty time consuming.

To avoid the reimport: Once you have created your first project, and have imported all your plugins, you can save that project as a template with the file menu. The next time you start on a new project, you select this template from the new project submenu.

One last thing: reading the forum, I see there may have been some issues with getting sustain working.

Since then, I have implemented a menu popup in the parameter panel, which have shortcut menus for creating default MIDI parameters, including sustain.

Frits

Hi Iain,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

2. Drag and drop from Stylus RMX was strange. At first this seemed not to work at all…then it turned out to be dropping the MIDI file into an additional organiser panel (sorry, I don’t know the name of that panel) from which I had to move it into the arrangement. Too many clicks, sorry.

I think the “addtional organiser panel” is the List view. Any drag and drop operation from Stylus (I have Stylus RMX) should result in the file dropping exactly where you want it in the arrangement. If you are using version 1.89 onwards.

I think 1.87 is the latest demo that does not AFAICT, have the new drag and drop feature. Older demos can certainly give the wrong impression. I would guess Frits will update the demo soon. 😉

Before discovering Podium, I believed Ableton Live was the shiznit. I was wrong. IMO, Podium offers a much more robust and stable setup specifically for arranging songs, which with the low price is a deal maker. The MIDI sync problem in Ableton is a deal breaker, plus it is relatively expansive. Live shines as a realtime sketchpad and performance tool, and has a bunch of first class MIDI and audio effects, which is Podium’s current weakness. However I trust that Frits will bring the additional functionality bit by byte. Hang in and checkout the next demo, even better, buy it.