alexFor Plug&Mix you get the activation code via e-mail. But, since you have to download the whole bundle anyway, maybe you want to do that first (just click on any plugin and then on download button – it’s a single installer), try them all, and then like them on Facebook (use the second link I posted) and get the code for the plugin you like best (I don’t remember what the limitations of demos are but you can for sure see how they work).
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alexWell, it’s great there’s somebody who’s more patient and tolerant than I am.
Azure,
I’ve read the last couple of posts and I want to explain some things. As The Telenator ‘s already said you’re not the only one who’s using REAPER past 60 days. Some people posted they did that over at Cockos. But (off the top of my head):
1. A guy was posting to thank Cockos for being able to finish his work thanks to their evaluation policy. People who responded just told him he should buy it when he can. Later he reported that he did it using his mother’s credit card (you can imagine how embaracing that can be for a grown man).
2. A guy was asking what to do – he installed REAPER and was away from home after that, so, when he came back the evaluation period was over. A mod responded and told him to evaluate it like he’s just downloaded it.
3. A guy who’s living in the country where $60 is a small fortune said he was saving up but he was gonna need another six months to be able to buy it.
So, nothing to laugh about. On the other hand, I see that you’re laughing all the time, which is a great thing, and I realize that I was wrong about that (about what I thought you were laughing about). Just pick a DAW and learn. BTW, it’s not necessarily a bad thing to be limited in some way – weak machine or Podium Free…. Such things can help you force the decision – bounce some tracks down and move on. There’s so many people who’re looping two bars for hours, trying to make something perfect and at the and of the day, they don’t even know what they wanted to do. That’s not the way to go (except when practicing and trying out new approaches and techniques….). Later, when you really know what you’re doing you will also know which DAW suits you best for your work. Finally, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions – something in your posts made me believe you were a noob, not a newb. It seems I was wrong.
Best of luck!
alexNo, I haven’t tried to do that, but maybe I will now. TBH, I haven’t had much time to play with plugins lately – as you can see pretty much all the plugins I’ve posted about are already well known. And, about HyBrit – it’s not really that I prefer it to some other – I simply try to collect the best plugins for every genre. O.K. let me put it this way – I own a jcm800 half stack but also a tween and lately I’m mostly using blues deluxe (also had a vox AC 30 before and some others). So, yes , I like many things (btw I’m always laughing when I read some threads about this amp or guitar vs that amp or guitar). I equally enjoy playing my lp and my tele. But that’s a bit OT, now. I actually wanted to discuss overdrive and distortion (it’s a thin line, I know, and I’m sure 10 different players will give 10 different answers about what’s distortion and what’s od, but I’m sure you know what I’m talking about). What I like, when we’re talking about any of those amps mentioned above is to use its own drive and what I now have on my pedalboard is an SD-1 which replaced the real thing a couple of years ago when it was stolen – yes it is a poor man’s TS-808 (same basic circuit) and I think it’s well worth mentioning on this forum, because, there’s a lot of beginners and people on low budget here. So if all somebody can afford is a cheap solid state amp, he/she probably can’t afford a Tube Screamer and in that case an SD-1 can make all the difference. Anyways, when we talk about the big guitar sound, I don’t think that what many people consider distortion (fizzy, bassy, over saturated, whatever sound, where one can’t really hear what a player is doing with his right hand) can help much – I’d rather take care of action (set it higher), strings (choose a heavier set), or both, but you already know that.
Cheers, Alex
alexYeah, you’re right, it is a Peavey 5150 emulation. And, yes again – last time I checked it was still in beta, a bit cpu hungry, but fully functional. So, I was pleasantly surprised to see it’s v1.0.2 now.
alexNice! Those are totally new to me.
Just wanted to link TSE Audio. You mentioned 808 and R47 in your post here and that reminded me of X50. So, they’re all here:
http://www.tseaudio.com/software.html
I guess everybody knows about this one, but I’ll link it anyway:
http://www.audiffex.com/EN/amplion/444/amplion-free.html
Cheers, Alex
alex@Azure wrote:
🙂 Thanks, Tele.
I think you’ve got me hung on the Reaper trial (I’m on day 151 – be quiet now). HA HA. One thing I did notice about Reaper is that the workflow is a wee bit confusing, but not as bad as Ableton Live, of which I have a Lite version. I’ve never figured it out – I’m not as savvy as some.
Using Reaper past 60 days is rippin’ Cockos off…..
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alex+1 on Flux Stereo Tool (forgot to mention it) and, for me, BitterSweet does better job than Waves TransX.
Cheers, Alex
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alexalex@Azure wrote:
2) Lack of multiprocessing is horrible for this product since when it overloads it manages to restart my whole computer (8GB DDR3 RAM, Intel i3-2120 @ 3.30Ghz) and NOT save my project file beforehand.
You could show some gratitude for being allowed to use someone’s software for free. In all your posts you’re either asking for help or whining about something, never a single post to help somebody or share about a new free plugin or whatever.
Other than that, what you wrote is truth and been already said bazillion times before and in the nice, constructive way, not – MY plugins don’ work, MY computer…. Who cares.
Yes, as a paid product, Podium is dead IMO, but that doesn’t concern you (or me), since you haven’t bought the license.
alexHi!
Well, here we go again.
Nope, not with Podium Free or Podium.
Check this thread for some more information and workarounds:
http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3028
Cheers, Alex
alexBUMP
Read the (edited) OP.
Cheers, Alex
alexListening to that song wouldn’t help much, but I can try to answer your question in general. Well, you got damn close with your last sentence (20 to 30 tracks) 😀 Although, you couldn’t really get that kind of sound with 20 tracks, the idea is to get from 100+ tracks to, let’s say, 20 (you could limit yourself and pretend that you’re mixing on a twenty four channel board). And that’s not that hard, after all. Where do all those tracks come from? Well, first of all, nowadays, they’re recording drums with 10+ mics (kick – inside and outside, snare – top and bottom, toms, hi-hat, overheads, room mic (or two) …. Then, they may have different kicks for verse and chorus, different samples added, multiple, sometimes (5 or more is not unusual for some genres) ….all kinds of percussion instruments… they layer the hell out of everything, which can bring not only drum samples but also tons of synth tracks, for example, two or even three basses, sometimes… then guitar doubles … full and partial vocal and lead instrument doubles. Tons of backing vox……….. I think you got the idea now. Finally, when you decide how you want and need to group everything and what can be processed together you can bounce a lot of those tracks down and start mixing from there. Actually, you don’t even have to use all those tracks if you feel you don’t need some of them, they’re too much or whatever really. TBH, especially in certain genres, they insist on the huge number of tracks, sometimes, for no good reason (a punk or a blues band simply doesn’t need 100 tracks) . The truth is that there’s a lot of producers who know what they’re doing and why they want so many tracks, some high budget projects, where they have enough money (read – studio time) to record as many tracks as they want, just in case, and decide later what they really want to use, but there’s also a lot of unexperienced people who simply do what they heard was the right thing to do, often with no success. On the other hand, I mixed a hip hop song the other day and all that can clearly be heard now is the kick, bass, snare, hand clap, hi-hat a couple of different synts and, of coarse, 10+ vocal tracks. O.K. some less important instruments which don’t play all the time can also be heard and that’s 4 or 5 tracks more. That’s roughly, what, 20-25 tracks. Actually, that song had nearly 60 tracks and every single of them was really good and contributed to the song.
Hope this explains some things.
Cheers, Alex
alexWell, some things are much clearer to me, now.
Playing with VSTi’s doesn’t have much to do with mixing. You asked about average song. O.K. I’ve just finished mixing a song that could be considered average – 29 tracks. Drums, bass, od and clean guitars and lead and backing vox. I ended up with 102 plugins and REAPER’s performance meter is showing 50 to 60% (’round 40% are fx). I’m on rather weak machine for today’s standards – 2.5 GHz dual core with 4 gigs of RAM. It took me about 4 hours to do the mix. Hopefully, this answers some of your questions. BTW, it’s absolutely normal to use more than 100 plugins in one session (doesn’t matter how many tracks you have – this was a rather small number of tracks and I decided to do everything in real time (if I had 100 tracks, I’d squash that to some reasonable number in the “pre mixing” stage)).
Now, about PT. I don’t know why everybody seem to hate it. Actually that’s the only DAW that I enjoy using besides REAPER (and don’t forget one thing – if you wanna be a mixer, you gotta know PT, like it or not).
Cheers, Alex