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August 10, 2009 at 22:53 in reply to: Preview 2.20: Various UI improvements #15997

Zynewave
Keymaster

Beta3 is up. In addition to some bug-fixes:

• Added “editor bar” element to the toolbar properties dialog. A toolbar that has this element included will show a row of buttons with the names of all compatible editors. Clicking an editor button will switch to that editor. The default setup has been modified to include the following editors: “Tracks”, “Editor”, “Mixer”, “Big Transport”. Use the “load default setup” command in the setup menu to get the new layout.

• The Editor Profiles dialog shows editor type info in the listbox.

• Modified the appearance of the space region “recess” type.

The editor bar is not yet automatically updated when you edit the editor profiles. That’s what I’m going to work on next.

The new default setup no longer has both the mixer and the embedded editor in the same profile. I concluded that very few will have displays with so high resolution that it makes sense to show both the embedded editor and the mixer in the same window. I’m interested in hearing your opinion on this new design.

August 10, 2009 at 11:03 in reply to: Preview 2.20: Various UI improvements #15984

Zynewave
Keymaster

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Simply try de- and reselecting an event – it uses the right profile but the zoom level is still locked (I tried with the default setup).

I’m not sure I understand. When you select an event, and the embedded editor shows a timelined profile, then the initial timeline zoom is set to the duration of the event. You can then change the zoom of the embedded editor without affecting the arrangement zoom.

Yes, meanwhile i noticed this, too. I spoke too soon 😳 – it first confused me that the zoom setting changed when I selected a different event, and as luck would have it, it changed precisely to a zoom level at which it looked as if it was still time-locked.
I’ve put a short video in my box, maybe it explains what confused me better – I guess those zoom jumps are not the intended behaviour.

I think this is the same bug that Liquidproject reported, so try again when the next beta3 is uploaded.

August 10, 2009 at 10:52 in reply to: Plugin rescanning #15983

Zynewave
Keymaster

If you have radically changed the folder layout on your harddrive and want those folders reflected as folders in the project device list, the easiest way is:

Create a new project and continue to do a normal plugin scan.
When asked if you want to save as a template, do so.
Load your old project, and select the new template you created from the “project/project templates/load device setup” menu.

August 9, 2009 at 22:05 in reply to: Preview 2.20: Various UI improvements #15976

Zynewave
Keymaster

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Simply try de- and reselecting an event – it uses the right profile but the zoom level is still locked (I tried with the default setup).

I’m not sure I understand. When you select an event, and the embedded editor shows a timelined profile, then the initial timeline zoom is set to the duration of the event. You can then change the zoom of the embedded editor without affecting the arrangement zoom.

August 9, 2009 at 21:44 in reply to: Preview 2.20: Various UI improvements #15975

Zynewave
Keymaster

@LiquidProj3ct wrote:

I find some bugs. I added a timeline ruler to embedded piano roll for try this, and there were the bugs I find (click on it):

1. Piano Roll and Piano Roll embedded are confused when you open it in embedded or in a floating window

You should not add the timeline to the “old” embedded profile. Otherwise you end up with two floating profiles and no “shared timeline” profile. Just select the “old” floating profile from the view menu in the embedded editor.

2. The embedded version doesn’t show the clip’s lenght, instead it shows until the end of the last note in the clip.

Fixed.

And a suggestion, would be nice an option where mixer and embedded editor were mutually exclusive? So you could alternate between them quickly, saving some of your screen height. I even could say that mixer could be another function of embedded editor, which would autoshow itself when a track header were selected (instead a clip).

That is possible by creating alternative profiles. Create a duplicate of your current arrangement profile, remove the embedded editor from one, and remove the mixer from the other. Then swap between the two profiles in the view menu, or by using the F8 shortcut.

August 9, 2009 at 21:19 in reply to: quantise and drums #15974

Zynewave
Keymaster

@Mike G wrote:

Any plans fritz?

An “advanced quantize” dialog is on the plan for the future. Don’t know when it will be here. I hope you’ll repeat your requests when I post a preview topic for that feature.

August 9, 2009 at 01:02 in reply to: About the embedded editor… #15966

Zynewave
Keymaster

I’ve revised the editor profiles, and made it possible to select the normal floating editor profiles in the embedded editor view menu. Check the 2.20 preview topic for details and the new beta.

August 9, 2009 at 00:55 in reply to: Preview 2.20: Various UI improvements #15965

Zynewave
Keymaster

Beta 2:

Added “create project template” and “create arrangement” options to the project start page. Enabling arrangement creation will no longer pop up the new arrangement dialog, but instead use default settings and go directly to the arrangement editor.

Removed the “editor type” setting from the editor profile properties dialog. The editor type is now automatically determined from the regions that are included in the profile.

The embedded editor view menu now includes editor profiles that has a timeline ruler. Selecting a profile with its own timeline ruler will detach the timeline zooming from the arrangement editor. The embedded editor remembers if the last selected profile had its own timeline.

August 9, 2009 at 00:46 in reply to: Sluggish sliding/scrolling of arrangement #15964

Zynewave
Keymaster

As a test, create a copy of your arrangement editor profile, and remove all regions except the tracks region. Keep all other windows closed, including the inspector and the browser panels. That will help to determine if the problem is related to the tracks region. If the problem is still there, then try to simplify the tracks region properties, by hiding the effect chain panels etc.

Let me know if some of this changes the lag.

August 7, 2009 at 14:15 in reply to: About the embedded editor… #15954

Zynewave
Keymaster

@kyran wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

I may skip the check-box option in the region properties dialog. I could just detect if the selected embedded editor profile has a timeline ruler in it, and if so then detach the timeline lock with the arrangement editor.

But it wouldn’t really be obvious to new users I think. Nothing really indicates that this will detach the zoom resolutions. So people will still request the feature, not knowing it’s there, or will report bugs about the decoupled zooming, not knowing it’s intended behaviour.

It’s a nice and elegant solution otherwise 🙂

I could include a second set of embedded profiles in the default setup, with the timeline ruler and scrollbar added. The users will then have both profiles available in the view menu profile list.

August 7, 2009 at 12:51 in reply to: About the embedded editor… #15952

Zynewave
Keymaster

I may skip the check-box option in the region properties dialog. I could just detect if the selected embedded editor profile has a timeline ruler in it, and if so then detach the timeline lock with the arrangement editor.

August 7, 2009 at 10:08 in reply to: Sluggish sliding/scrolling of arrangement #15948

Zynewave
Keymaster

@swindus wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

How is the Windows task manager CPU indicator behaving during all of this? Maybe the inserting of the plugin fixes a denormal issue.

It looks like that when the plugin is ‘off’ Podium is using only one core and this core is maxed out on sliding. When I enable the plugin Podium is using both cores.

The UI redraw can only use one core. When you have arrangement power on, is one of the cores not maxed out when sliding?

After disabling the loop it’s the same but sliding always fast.

Is one of the cores still maxed out?

Is it equally sluggish when you scroll only horizontally and only vertically?

Can you quantify “sluggish” compared to normal? I.e. is it painting only half the framerate as normal scrolling?

August 6, 2009 at 22:58 in reply to: About the embedded editor… #15941

Zynewave
Keymaster

@Markus wrote:

Nothing.. Why i even try?

What? 😕

As I replied to you in another topic, I read all forum posts. You can’t expect me to reply to every single post. I work 10-14 hours a day, 7 days a week, on Podium. I hope users understand, that when I’m not online on this forum, I’m busy developing on Podium.

August 6, 2009 at 22:19 in reply to: About the embedded editor… #15939

Zynewave
Keymaster

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Some of us are simply arguing for more horizontal space without having to zoom all the time. Please don’t dismiss it just yet… 🙁

Good night!

I’m not dismissing it. I’m just explaining why I have made an effort to avoid wasted vertical space. I’ll consider adding an option in the embedded editor region properties, to enable non-embedded editor profiles as well.

August 6, 2009 at 21:33 in reply to: Sluggish sliding/scrolling of arrangement #15937

Zynewave
Keymaster

@swindus wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

How about if instead of resizing the timeline area, you zoom in on the timeline and the vertical track size. Perhaps scroll the timeline so that the loop section is outside the displayed range. Any sudden jump in speed?

No, still sluggish.

The sluggish movement stops when inserting certain FX plugins on a track. The sliding/scrolling is slow with an empty project. Just a master track and a 4 bar loop. When I insert IIEQ (equalizer) as insert on the master track the sliding is fast as normal. This also works with Devastor or Fazortan from D16. Now thats crazy …..

:-s That’s just weird.

Does the plugin “fixing” happen both with the arrangement powered on/off?

How is the Windows task manager CPU indicator behaving during all of this? Maybe the inserting of the plugin fixes a denormal issue.

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