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Many thanks, acousmod 🙂 That’s a great help.

– the wave representation doesn’t follow the fades

So far this applies to Podium too. Can’t it sometimes be a disadvantage that the waveform is scaled according to the fade curve? If you are working with a sound event that you have reduced by -24 dB, there won’t be much waveform left to help you in finetuning the fade-in/out.

– selection of the curves in a popup window when double clicking a fade

Do you mean that the hosts do not support the popup window, or do you mean its a disadvantage that you need to open a popup window rather than a right-click menu?

+ the volume can be dragged with a positive dB value

For now I have set the limits for the event gain to [-48 .. +12] dB, the same as the track gain setting.

And all the other tools too I suppose ?

Not so far. I see no point in showing the fade handles if you have selected e.g. the eraser tool.

It seems most hosts support vertical dragging of the fade curve to set the level, so do you think this is the way to go?

Experiment with draggable handles on the sound events:

The screenshot shows the fade in handle clicked and being dragged (mouse cursor not shown). The bottom handles will resize the event. This works identically for the select and pencil tools. The handles and fade curves are only shown when the mouse is hovering over an event.

Next step is finding a method for displaying and dragging gain and pan for the event. Dragging the fade-in handle up/down could be used in some way, but I would prefer the fade-in/out boxes are always aligned to the top of the event. The gain/pan values should be written as text either overlaid onto the event or below the event. Perhaps I could show two dial controls next to the values. Any ideas?

I would like to see automatic crossfades but with the ability to further edit the crossfade curves as you show with the fade controls.

How I imagine automatic crossfade would work: When you drag a sound event to overlap another event on the same track, the fade in/out times of the two events will be set to the overlapping interval. The fade out curve of the first event will then be inversed and assigned as fade in curve of the second event. This crossfade will be applied as a separate edit in the undo history. If you don’t want the automatic crossfade you just press undo once. Pressing undo again will undo the event move.

will there be a graphical way of doing this for instance just clicking on an audio clip and say dragging in a fade quickly via a drag box or with a key+click combo?

I haven’t implemented that yet, but that is the plan. Would it be sufficient to be able to drag the fade in/out times directly on the event? To edit the curve shape you would then need to open the properties dialog (Shift+Enter).

I was also considering extending the fade properties dialog with a listbox where you could create and manage defaults/templates. This list would then be available as a submenu when right-clicking the event, to quickly recall various curve shapes. But maybe that would be overkill?

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and I would depend on you to make the updates before I could include the PDF in a new release.

Another solution could be to remove the PDF files from the installer, and make them available as separate downloads. They are relatively large and take up considerable space in the installer. That way I don’t have to worry about the PDFs before each release, and you can update the guide whenever you have the time. Still, a lot of work for you 😉