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September 16, 2004 at 17:19 in reply to: expand the potention already present in Podium: Playlist #3808
ZynewaveKeymasterSince the arrangements are very accesible via the object list (listview) I was wondering if it would not be possible (I know it is) to add a play function in the list view for every arrangement (comparable to the auditioning of audio files). that way you can switch live from one arrangement to another.
This will be done at some point. Also perhaps add small monitor/play/stop buttons to the arrangement cards in the browser window.
A playlist of marker regions with hyperjumps between arrangements will likely not happen. Playing an arrangement will require that monitoring is activated which could cause a pause of several seconds, depending on amount of insert plugins that should be loaded, and loading presets in plugins and external devices.
A playlist using markers within a single arrangement can be done. As I see it, this feature would be a surrogate for pattern based composition. Currently I don’t consider this an important feature though.
ZynewaveKeymasterYes it is possible. I got it working with the free ‘Side Chain Compressor’ from Slim Slow Slider:
http://www.ismusic.ne.jp/slim_slow_slider/vst/#sidech
When you import the stereo version of this plugin, Podium will create two input mappings and one output mapping. The first input mapping is the regular input and the second mapping the side chain input. The plugin thus is configured as a global plugin and not an insert plugin, since it needs to be assigned to several tracks. Because the plugin is configured with separate input and output mappings, it is in itself set up as a bus, so on the tracks you assign the input mappings you use the send dial to control the input.
There is a mono version of the SideChainCompressor plugin, which will be imported as a single stereo in/out insert mapping. That’s because Podium cannot determine that it is actually two mono inputs. You need to split the stereo input mapping yourself after import.
ZynewaveKeymasterI’ll just copy/paste that into the future development list, shall I? 😉
Nice list. They may not all be implemented for the next couple of updates, but I’ll make sure to consider them all eventually.
Frits
ZynewaveKeymasterYes, Podium does support VstTimeInfo. This includes the use of samplePos.
I just tried the AnarchyRhythms demo, and there seems to be something in its startup procedure that assumes Podium is not supporting this. A dialog pops up within the plugin saying that the host does not support sync. If I subsequently go in and reenable the ‘Host Sync’ check box in the plugin, all seems to be well. I’ll take a note of this and try to debug this for the next next release. My head is currently buried in floating point wave files and 64 bit floating point mixing 🙂
ZynewaveKeymasterHi,
I could create a shortcut in the projet wizard Arrangement panel that would automatically create the tracks needed to route e.g. a reverb plugin as a send bus. Is this what you had in mind?
If you want to start out with the mixer layout as you described, you would need to create this once and save the project as ‘Default.pod’ (as described in the 1.14 release topic). Then every time you start up Podium you would have this mixing desk template to start out with.
Frits
ZynewaveKeymaster…light slowly dawns, sun filters through the curtains, throwing longs rays across the shadows… things that were hidden take on sharp images, contrast and depth are filled out as the brightness increases..
Is that lyrics from one of your own songs? 😉
ZynewaveKeymasterwhen MIDI output from VST/i is implemented, could an option be included for sending it down a buss to control a plug in the bus…
Won’t be an easy thing to do, so I think I’ll pass in the first round.
Also, will the MIDI carry on upstream in the mixer until the events are sunk by a VST, or will they just be lost at the next level? I hope that the former would be implemented, since it would be the most useful.
I haven’t looked into how I would implement support for MIDI output of VSTs, but I guess I will treat it just like if it was an external synth you were using to play/record MIDI. So the MIDI would flow upstream until it arrives at a device mapping that can use it.
ZynewaveKeymasterHi,
This has not been implemented yet. You’re not the first to ask about this, so I will put a higher priority on it, but I cannot make any promises on when it will be available.
Frits
ZynewaveKeymasterwhen a track is zoomed using the slider at the bottom right, is there a chance that it could centre on the current play position?
I’ll think about this.
Also, could there be an option for returning the playback position to it’s last stop position after a play? I would find this really useful when listening back to a part, overdubbing/mixing etc; instant recueing. It would be hepful to be able to turn it off.
I’ll think about this too 🙂 A solution using existing functionality would be to place a marker at your desired stop point. Pressing the Q key would then move the play cursor back to the marker. You can do this while playing also.
Btw, thinking about VST parameters – when they are automatically generated when a plug is imported, they have their max and min both set to zero. Since a VST parameter will always be between 0 and 1, would it make sense to default to those?
The min and max settings are integers. When the range is set to 0..0 for a VST parameter, Podium will use the floating point precission of the parameter (All VST parameters are floats by default). If you know that a VST parameter is used to set a value in a fixed integer range, you can enter this range for the parameter, and e.g. the mixer sliders will show the integer value rather than the floating point value. If you set the range to 0 and 1, Podium will treat it as a on/off type parameter. Some of the VST parameters in the device definition files are defined this way.
ZynewaveKeymaster@anfmusic wrote:
Haven’t had time to write much lately Frits; but love the updates! Hope the review helps to interest a few more people!
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/834.htmlHi Alphonse, good to hear from you.
That is a glowing review, thanks!
ZynewaveKeymasterWhere will I find this then?
In the curve editor view menu, select ‘Profile Properties’ to open the setup dialog. Select the Meter region and press the Properties button.
ZynewaveKeymaster- ‘Recently opened projects’ shortcut list.
- Minor editor improvements.
ZynewaveKeymasterWhy is it necessary to fill the automation curve with colour at all?
It is not necessary at all. The curves drawn in the sequence events in the arrangement editor is drawn without filling the body of the curve. I originally had the body filled here as well, but it put too much strain on the CPU when scrolling an arrangement with a large number of curves.
The advantages with filling the body of the curve, is that it is more clear where the zero or default value is. A curve sequence placed on a level parameter track would paint the body all the way to the bottom, but the same curve sequence placed on a panning or pitch bend parameter track would paint the body wrapping around at the middle. Furthermore the body is painted with a color grading scaled to the curve value. Just by skimming the curve horizontally and watching the color variance, you can get a feel for how the curve changes.
But maybe it’s just me that finds this useful 😛
I’m going to improve the curve editing in one of the coming releases. Maybe I’ll put in an option in the profile properties to get rid of the color fill.
ZynewaveKeymasterthe other way would be to draw the automation, then overlay the gridlines with a more light colour.. might introduce flicker tho’..
I do all graphics rendering in offscreen buffers before blitting the result to the screen, so there will never be any flicker no matter what I draw. I’ll try your suggestion and see what it looks like. It won’t look the same as true transparency, but it may work.
ZynewaveKeymasterHi,
I’m sorry to hear you’re running into so many problems 🙁
It should be possible to install Podium when logged in as administrator, and still be able to use it when logged in as other users. You just have to do a little trick:
One of the things the installer does is to create a Zynewave/Podium sub folder tree in the ‘Application Data’ folder for the current user. All you need to do is copy this folder tree from your administrator account into your normal login account. If using W2K, then this path would typically be at:
C:Documents and Settings[user]Application DataZynewavePodiumWhen Podium is starting up, it expects to find this folder, which it uses to store setup files and audio cache files. That’s probably causing your problem with the empty editor windows, since Podium will not find the setup file. For the future I’ll put in some code in the Podium startup routines that automatically creates the Zynewave/Podium folders if not found.
