Conquistador@Jaegerteam wrote:
Would be good if not too many features would be taken over to Podium.
Podium must not be an application for everybody.
I guess the market Podium is in (audio + midi sequencers) moves so fast that while Podium need not be an application for everyone it also does IMO have to try and appeal to a good spread of different types of users.
Thankfully it already does 😉 but without the kind of problems Steinberg have.
Podium fills a particular niche right now and although you want to continue to improve its capabilities and subsequently market share, you don’t want it to change so much that it becomes just another DAW and competes with the rest of the ho-hum applications out there.
I definitely do not want that either, but I think as Frits adds more features to Podium the design and thinking behind Podium is so different that I doubt in future Podium will ever be so similar to other hosts out there that people lose interest.
Podium has some pretty radical ideas that are a joy to use. The group panel is just one of many in Podium. Frits initial discussion about the zGrid also demonstrated that he still has fresh and clever ideas that continue to add value to Podium.
I think the key here is to trust Fritz’s vision. While you may not know what exactly he has on the plate at any given moment, I do believe that he has a very good sense on Podium’s direction and what wants and doesn’t want Podium to be.
Yes. Well said.
In addition to that, Frits approach to developing Podium is flexible as well. He no doubt has a clear idea as to what will appear in a new update but will sometimes even add new suggestions that are made by users at very short notice as well, into the next scheduled update.
ConquistadorConquistador@Improv wrote:
Have you actually used Cubase Score? It’s a dog’s breakfast compared to other scoring software. I went and bought Finale-what a world of difference. Anyone that’s serious about using notation software usually will go out and buy software like Finale or Sebilius (sp?)
Agreed this was my point that Finale can be bought with the change left over from selling Cubase 4 and even after buying Podium.:wink:
As for video, that may be a deal breaker for some, but only a small percentage of Cubase users do a lot of video. If they did, they would have been better off using Nuendo
Yes probably but I think even after buying Podium and Finale there would still be change left over to buy any one of a good choice of video editors out there that offer much more than Cubase does. It has video features but is not a video editor.
Even Magix supplied their £50 video editor for free with Samplitude 7 and 8 Pro so really even the video issue really should not stop a Cubase user from crossing over. 😉
Conquistador@pj geerlings wrote:
Steinberg has announced that they will not be issuing the promised bug-fix update for version 3.1.1 of Cubase and instead they will keep concentrating on 4.02
This has upset many previous users and I suspect some of them will opt for Podium
The question becomes: How ready is Podium/Frits for this potential influx of customers? I would like to continue to push people in the Podium direction whenever possible. But …
sometimes success can be more challenging than failure
any thoughts?
I guess you may not have seen this but..Improv started a similar thread earlier here…:)
http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1137
But anyway …frankly I cannot see any reason why a Cubase 4 user would not be able to produce professional music with Podium. As with any new host one must give time to settle in and be prepared for a new approach to music production.
Also with the recently added tutorials from Podianer (very well produced videos) I think Podium is very well placed to cater for Cubase users.
Two things though could be deal breakers…
1. Notation.
2. Video support
No.1 I suspect might be too far to go for some Cubase users. I think notation has been present long before SX1!
But then again considering the cost of Samplitude (mentioned quite a few times by Cubase users looking to switch) perhaps the thought of selling Cubase, buying Podium and keeping the change for Finale (which is better than the notation features in Cubase anyway), is really not so bad a path to take!
I think Podium offers a highly reliable and stable platform that simply lets people get on with making music.
What good are so many new features if you have to wait for 2 – 3 months for the first patch?
Realistically you have to wait until the last patch in the case of Steinberg to get the least buggy version. But the recent announcement means that even with C4 that may not even be guaranteed.
There is only so much time in a day to spend complaining about a product.
At some point one must get on with making music. If product A has more features but you are treated so badly and you struggle to get things done then maybe the smooth running and rock solid cheaper but very capable feature set of product B (Podium for instance) just might now seem like a very interesting option for some Cubase users.
Less cost and more productivity.
Podium has a very broad feature set that is expanding at a very balanced and manageable rate. I simply cannot see Frits ever finding himself in Steinbergs position.
Ok if he gets bought out then it might not be down to him when bugs get fixed but as for now Frits addresses bugs with the same efficiency he approaches new features.
Even if Zynewave was bought out and Frits did not make the final decision on bug fixes the framework is so bug free and stable I think it would not make that much, if any difference anyway. Frits spent 10 years on it and it shows.
I think many people looking in from the outside might think this forum is too quiet…there just is hardly anything wrong with Podium (anything found gets fixed so quickly) so really you just enjoy the product you bought.
It is quite a refreshing change especially when you look at the locked threads and complaints on the Steinberg forums.
Podium might not have 150 new features at the end of every year or two, but by fixing any issues as he adds new features with each update, Frits eliminates the huge bug backlog problem that Steinberg have struggled with for years.
It is a non issue for Frits. Remarkable for a single developer.
Frits approach to host developing really does work. Quicker updates (with new user driven features) and quicker fixes.
Podium has matured past basic features long ago. I think a Cubase 4 user would be pleasantly surprised.
Podium actually gets a mention on this Cubase thread on page 3…
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=65451&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50
ConquistadorCheers Frits.
A nice collection of new additions… 8)
Conquistador@Improv wrote:
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=65452
Six months of broken promises from Steinberg to their Cubase 3 users. And all the corporate double speak that that entails.
For months I have been keeping Cubase SX2 and Podium installed on my hard drive trying to decide whether to upgrade
Cubase or totally go with Podium. That announcement did it for me-Cubase and the dongle get removed, Podium stays.
It is quite staggering. I have been reading the Steinberg threads as well. I read somewhere that Steinberg had a much smaller exhibit than Cakewalk at the AES show or possibly Summer NAMM (not sure) either way it appears Yamaha somehow are not that concerned with the very poor perception of Steinberg as a company and maybe are not really that bothered with a loss of customers.
This is something I simply do not understand. From my own experience with companies as big as Yamaha I am sure they would have looked at every possible way to get a return on their investment in Steinberg *before* they bought them.
Yamaha were working closely with Steinberg long before they bought them. So they had plenty of time to think it over.
Somehow though maybe because of the tiny size of the Steinberg ‘fish’ in the Yamaha Ocean, perhaps Yamaha as of yet are not really directly running the show. It certainly looks that way.
It is all very strange. Almost as if they simply don’t care. Puzzling. Even the largest companies with supposedly cast iron brand names can start to lose a significant amount of market share if they persist in ignoring obvious problems with their product and customer base.
Just a few words and a little bit of consistent communication about the removal of DX support and no SX3 final update would have avoided a huge PR mess for Yamaha and Steinberg.
Conquistador@NiDerLander wrote:
Conquistador
No need to sorry, and thank you for your trying in helping me!
But this is not the case too. In fact, I’ve restarted, rebooted etc. several times. I’m learning Podium demo few weeks already. And there is no any applications running in the background – just Podium and soundcard mixing console.
Ok….:wink: in any case it looks like you have your solution now! 🙂
Conquistador@NiDerLander wrote:
Podianer
Thanks, but yes, I’ve looked at video tutorials. Also I’ve read wiki and followed all instructions from there.Zynewave
Yes, timeline became red when I enable recordings and cursor changed to red too. I’ve tried to switch punch-in/out to “on” and “off”, but no recordings done in both modes.🙁
That does sound very strange. I know this is going to sound extremely obvious but have you tried..
a. Restarting Podium?
b. Restarting your PC, then restarting Podium?
c. Checked to see if there are any other audio related applications running in the background?
Sorry if you have already done this (just trying to help you) it’s just that Podium really should be working, if as Frits said ” The demo version is not record restricted.” 😐
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Or am I doing something wrong here?
No. This is something I will improve at some point.
Thanks for clarifying that one. It has been a problem for sometime I just had not got round to posting it.
I also noticed when adding notes in a drum editor while looping the playback drops immediately after adding a note and then starts again at the loop start.
I noticed this as well especially when when preparing the drum map tutorial.
To achieve the ‘gap-less’ performance, Podium prepares the playback one second in advance before outputting the prepared buffers to MIDI and audio interfaces. This is why e.g. edits applied to events within one second of the current playback position will not be output.
Ok that explains it. Thanks. Don’t know if this is possible but if there was some way in future to have both gapless playback and to avoid the issues I, as well as Swindus experienced that would be ideal…if it is not possible then..it is just not possible 😉 . At least I now understand why this happens in Podium 😉
Cheers.
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
The zGrid preset will contain both the routing of effects as well as the presets for the individual effects.
That’s fantastic thanks! 🙂
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Since it is a VST plugin, you can export the zGrid preset a a .fxp file and import into other projects.
Ok…yes that makes sense (as any other VST FX) but I meant would it be possible for instance to save a chain of FX like a Compressor+EQ+Chorus in the zGrid, save and then and load that into any other project?
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
You’ll have to be patient with this. I have work planned for at least a couple of months before I will consider starting on zGrid.
Please take your time and don’t rush anything. 😉 Will it be possible to save FX chains in the zGrid? That is saving FX chains that can be used in any other project?
If this is something you have not previously considered, do you think it might be possible?
ConquistadorOk…I have now seen the multitimbral tutorial. Very good. There is definitely enough detail in there to get users going with multitimbral VSTi’s. Nice work! 😉
I don’t use EZ drummer but I will definitely look at those videos as well. They should be very useful for new users setting up drum VSTi’s in Podium.
Nice splash by the way. 8)
Conquistador@Serendipity wrote:
When I save a project as a template I don’t get any option where to put it. Why is that? I might not want to use the default location under Documents and Settings…
The same with definitions. Wouldn’t it be better to be able to set that location in the preferences?
Actually that is not a bad idea at all, especially for project templates IMO.
Conquistador@Podianer wrote:
added new video showing how to setup a multitimbral sampler. I know that the video is lacking automation. This will come later. I think it is better to have more videos showing individual things, than having one video showing everything.
All the “small gimmicks” in Podium are shown during each video, such as the loop mode or certain shortcuts. So it is not necessary to create a specific video only to show how looping works..
What do you think about the last added video? Is this enough to get to grips with samplers in Podium?
I have not seen that video yet. I’ll give you some feedback once I have seen it. Great stuff Podianer. Your efforts will help many users. 😉