ZynewaveIt’s for the upcoming 2.04 release that the pan fader option is available. You must have confused it with the description of it in the 2.04 preview topic.
ZynewaveThis is not possible with sound files on Podium tracks. There may be some VSTi sampler plugins which support browsing through different samples using program change, CC or other MIDI messages.
Zynewave@swindus wrote:
I have a problem with the parameter tracks in the current beta. I cannot move the faders of parameter tracks in the mixer. Anybody else noticed this?
Fixed last night. I’ve just uploaded beta6, which is the final beta. I’ve now completed my testing and bug-fixing. Please try this version and let me know if everything seems ok. This version now saves all the new settings to the pod file.
If everything is ok, I’ll release 2.04 this weekend.
ZynewaveIf you don’t mind cheating a bit:
Using the param panel in the inspector, set up a Level (or Pan/Send) parameter track for your plugin. You should now have two parameter tracks under your plugin. Select the “Level” parameter track, locate the “WAH” parameter in the param list, right-click and select “Assign to this track”. You now have two WAH parameter tracks. You’ll notice that Podium automatically mutes the second WAH track because it would otherwise conflict with the first WAH track. But if you then manually mute the first WAH track, the second WAH track becomes active. You can use this procedure to switch between alternate automation tracks. Rather than muting/unmuting automation tracks, it may be easier to use the “move track” submenu and move the automation track you want to work with above the other automation tracks.
Some time in the future I may implement a dedicated multiple take option for parameter tracks.
Zynewave@ronin wrote:
Add a track and leave the metering options disabled.
1. The mixer panel doesn’t show the meter (thats right since we disabled the meter) but the arrangement panel does.
2. If I add an effect to that track the meter in the arrangment panel disappers but the context menu says it is enabled. (it can be reenabled by deactivating the fader and activating it again)
Thanks for testing. Last night I fixed a bug related to the meters in the tracks region. I’ve just uploaded beta5, which has a lot of bug-fixes. Please try this and check if you still find meter inconsistencies.
Zynewave@Conquistador wrote:
Couple of things...instead of “Click to toggle pre/post fader” Maybe “Click anywhere in the Grid to toggle Pre post fader” is better. I see that as adding a bit more clarity and really finishing off a superb round of upgrades to the mixer.
As this is a text that is constantly shown in the popup, I’m looking for something that is briefer than the text you suggested. The popup would otherwise be twice the width.
Mixer header info: I still think it would give a user a really nice way to see what is in the mixer but without needing to have it visible all the time. Any reason why you think it is not a good idea? Only showing info for the focus track is an advantage surely if that is what the user has currently selected…no?
I just don’t think that the mixer title is a proper place to put this kind of info. I would hate having to constantly see this fader/meter info in the title when working in the timeline editors, where I’m not concerned with pre/post fader setup. Especially as the text would update whenever the track focus moves. It would draw my attention to irrelevant info.
ZynewaveBeta4 is uploaded. I think I’m done with adding features for the 2.04 release. Still a couple of days remaining with testing and bug-fixing.
ZynewaveHi,
There’s some info on license transfer at the bottom right of the purchase page.
Transfer of a license is allowed for free only once.
Frits
Zynewave@UncleAge wrote:
Is this still in the works?
I haven’t made any development on a zScope plugin. There are a good number of freeware analysis plugins available, so I think my time is better spent on Podium features. It still would be a nice project for the future, once the next 100 or so Podium features have been implemented.
ZynewaveYou can increase the height of the timeline ruler region in the editor profile properties. That will give you more space to hit the cursor.
ZynewaveSuggestion for a grid popup:
This popup will appear whenever the mouse is moved over one of the grids. What the screenshot does not show is that I’ve positioned the mouse over the bottom left block in the grid, which is why the text at the bottom of the popup says “set fader at” followed by the track name. Moving the mouse over the blocks will update the popup so that you can easily verify what action the shift+click will perform.
Also note that clicking anywhere in the grid now performs a simple pre/post switch of the meter. You need to shift-click to set the fader/meter to a specific position.
Comments?
ZynewaveHmm, I don’t think this is something that fits in my quest for simplification of the UI. It can be a source for confusion if users experiment with the hide option without realizing exactly what it does, and I fear there would be support questions about the apparent “missing” devices that otherwise is present on the start page. The project templates (with the load setup command) was supposed to be a solution for the need to have alternative device layouts. Can’t you use the project/track templates for this purpose?
Zynewave@bladerunner wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
When you insert effect tracks in Podium, they have so far been inserted post fader.
i have been transferring a few projects from another daw to podium – copying settings from vst’s etc. could this be why certain elements have been sounding a lot different? i always understood that an insert effect is pre fader. if that is the case then i think inserts should definitely be changed to pre fader in podium
It could be. The pre/post positioning will only affect plugins which base their processing on the level of the input signal. Effects such as EQs and reverbs will typically not change their sound characteristics depending on the input level.
I’m in the process of changing the Podium default to pre-fader effects. With the new fader/meter menus or alternatively the mixer grids, you’ll be able to easily change the pre/post placement in your existing projects.
Zynewave@Conquistador wrote:
May I ask why you would want two independent faders in your Trilogy chain example? Surely it makes mixing more difficult when you have to manage two faders instead of one?
This has been mentioned before on this very thread…not every plugin has an output control or one with a meter so having two independent faders in the Trilogy chain example for me makes it easier to manage the levels of the FX tracks in the chain. Much easier. I would use three or four even in a chain.
Fair enough. Although I would still claim that if you have an effect plugin that boosts or dampens the signal to such a degree that you need to add a fader in Podium to fix the level, it would be better to fix the preset in the offending plugin instead.
Actually this information could be visible in the Mixer header.
So it would look like this…
Mixer: Current Fader – Drums . Current Meter – Guitar.This will update as one moves the Fader or Meter within the chain and is completely out of the way providing a very subtle but highly accurate and useful amount of information. Even when the mixer is hidden you could still see that info in the mixer header. It could also update when a user selects any tracks in the GP or Arrangement at track level.
This would only show the fader/meter selections for the focus track. I’m going to experiment with popups inside the mixer instead.
Does this mini chain guide makes sense Frits?
I’m afraid it doesn’t make sense to me. You are describing a lot of workarounds for understanding the Chain Miniature, which shouldn’t be necessary. Today I’m going to revise the Miniature (which btw. I’m now calling “Fader & Meter Grid” 😛 )
Thanks for the feedback. Although, I wish you would chop up these monster posts into several smaller posts. It’s hard work getting the quotes right in the reply. 😉
Zynewave@Conquistador wrote:
If you can confirm that the following points are correct then I may use the Grid in certain circumstances but I need to be sure I have got this right…
Good idea. Let’s try this out with a practical example. I have a few questions as well.
a. If you have 4 hidden FX tracks being fed by a Trilogy instrument track for instance and you the unhide the top most track
^EQ2
^Comp
^Phaser
^EQ1
^Trilogy…the EQ2 in this case…
…you would easily be able to control the output for the EQ2 track independently of any of the track faders in the chain, if the Output Gain option was activated for the EQ2 track…correct? This is an easy one (I hope):P
Yes. May I ask why you would want two independent faders in your Trilogy chain example? Surely it makes mixing more difficult when you have to manage two faders instead of one?
b. At this point we still have not touched the Grid but decide to make sure the lowest two blocks in the Grid chain on the EQ2 track form a full row. This will ensure the EQ2 track maintains it’s own independent Fader control that is correct, yes?
Yes.
c. When we now hide the EQ2 track again, instead of two full rows appearing on the First EQ1 track (above Trilogy) we can now see 4 full blocks or two full rows. The reason is because the first (topmost) EQ2 track still has it’s own independent fader. Correct?
Yes.
d. Now we are back to all tracks hidden except Trilogy. If I now click on the row of blocks for the top most EQ2 track in the chain the Output gain is automatically de-selected in the Track Properties for that EQ2 track. Correct?
No, that’s not how it behaves currently. I’ll have to do some testing to figure out what the best behaviour is. Currently it will move the bottom fader to the track you click, so in your example the bottom fader will overwrite the top fader. You can then click again on the bottom track, and the fader will move along leaving only that one fader active in the chain.
e. I should now have one single row of full blocks in the Grid the EQ1 track. This represents the single fader and meter controls that can be freely passed up and down the chain of FX (Pre, anyhere in between and Post FX)…correct?
Yes, although: The bottom row in the miniature represents the Trilogy track, so the fader controls the output of the Trilogy track and not the EQ1 track.
Question for all Podium users with an interest in how pre/post fader should function:
I’ve been browsing through documentation for Cubase, Logic and others, and I have not found info on whether insert plugins on a channel strip are processed pre or post fader. Does anyone know more about this?
When you insert effect tracks in Podium, they have so far been inserted post fader. I’m starting to think that it may be better if the default behaviour is to insert effects pre fader, except for bus sends which should default to post fader. The pre/post position of effects has an importance in the operation of e.g. a compressor. If the compressor is added post fader, then adjusting the fader will influence the amount of compression applied by the plugin, which most likely is undesirable. Any opinions on this?