Topic: Preview 2.23: Redesigned group panel

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  • #16833
    H-man
    Participant

    @LiquidProj3ct wrote:

    This is the little piano roll bug I said before:

    Best regards 🙂

    edit: I’m also getting tons of freezes exiting podium, when the system ask if I want to save the project and I say ‘no’, around 1 each 3 times. I don’t know how to replicate.

    To my knowledge Podium has always done that. I thought it was something to do with the scale or zoom of that editor?

    #16834
    Mike G
    Participant

    @H-man wrote:

    As mentioned I’d like the state of the inspector and browser to be stored/recalled across tabs as well.

    Me too.

    #16835
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    – Track headers don’t always show the same elements even if they’re supposedly the same height after using the ‘set default track height’ option.

    It seems this happens because there’s a larger space between selector buttons and the faders when there’s an effect added to the chain.

    Here are two tracks – only the second one has effects on it.
    On the top row, they’re both at the smallest possible size where you can still see everything except the effect chain. On the bottom row, the additional space is easily visible after setting track size so that you get to see the controls on the second track too.

    Thanks. Fixed in the new beta14.

    There’s also a little extra space on the right side of the track headers, even when you disable vertical meters and the color bar. It’s more apparent now with the selection frame – it looks a bit strange that it doesn’t cover the whole header.

    You mean the space for the horizontal drag bar? Clicking this will not select the track, so I think it would be wrong to extend the focus frame onto this bar.

    #16836
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @LiquidProj3ct wrote:

    This is the little piano roll bug I said before:

    Best regards 🙂

    edit: I’m also getting tons of freezes exiting podium, when the system ask if I want to save the project and I say ‘no’, around 1 each 3 times. I don’t know how to replicate.

    That’s intended. Podium will scan how many octaves contains notes in the the displayed range of the sequence event, and then display this centered. In your sequence the second note is placed in the octave below the first note, so the display is offset with an octave.

    Please let me know if you find a way to reproduce the freeze bug.

    #16837
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @H-man wrote:

    The state of the track headers no longer changes with the tabs (I liked this behavior a lot).

    What state? With “tabs”, do you mean the tabulator key or the page headers at the top of the project window?

    As mentioned I’d like the state of the inspector and browser to be stored/recalled across tabs as well.

    Please clarify.

    Clicking on a track in the rack doesn’t highlight the corresponding track in the mixer or track headers (ie. Group track).

    If the track is shown in the rack, then it is already the focus track, and so should already be highlighted in the tracks and mixer regions?

    Adding output gain and output panning to and effect in the rack sets the fader at two locations on the mixer strip (two active squares) and shows additional Pan & Fade controls in the mixer

    I belieave that’s how it always have worked, or do you mean you have found a new bug?

    Would it be possible for the new track menu to stay rolled out and change focus as you click on different tracks in the mixer? As it is now I still prefer to right-click the track. Clicking anywhere else would close it of course.

    But you can already do that by right-clicking on the track header or mixer strips? Or are you referring to something else?

    #16838
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Sure. Probably coming in 2.24.

    Otherwise known as Podium 4.0! =P~

    @Zynewave wrote:

    – I think the ‘default track color’ setting is ready to be retired. With the default opacity settings, it messes everything up if you select anything but shades of grey.

    Can you clarify?

    Um, I’ll try, but I can’t guarantee that my explanation will make sense to you! 😆
    For reference, example 1 has 2.23’s default color settings: overall color opacity 100%, track background opacity 20%, some random track colors and no default track color assigned.

    Before 2.23, you could select a default color and still override it when you set per-track colors, provided you set opacity to 100%.
    Now, the strips are always colored, even if you set rack/header/strip opacity to 0. Even on higher opacity levels you don’t override the default track color but can only add various track colors to it instead. So you have a choice between all track backgrounds being pretty much shades of the same color (ex. 2, low opacity) or getting a real color mix (ex. 3, high opacity), like in previous versions, but coloring the whole strip this time. All in all very bright compared to the default settings. (Edit: It can of course be dark as well – I meant to say it’s quite intense.)
    Setting the default color to a shade of grey is a little more useful, as you can make tracks appear generally brighter or darker, if moderately applied. (Edit: Sorry, this is of course not correct. It can be achieved by setting a lighter or darker shade of the panel background color! It’s just that I always use grey…) 😉

    Thanks for the screenshots. You’re right. I made an experiment in beta11, where the opacity setting would fade into the default track color, instead of the panel color. That resulted in the fully colored track background in your screenshot. I’ve now reverted back to fading into the panel color. That makes the “default track color” still relevant, I think 😉

    Btw. I’ve modified the default track coloring slightly in the new beta14, and specified a new default track color. Let me know if the new default colors present problems.

    #16839
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    About beta 12:

    – What’s up with the ‘apply track height’ command – is it supposed to replace ‘set default track height’? The help text says it only works on parameter tracks however (and it does), so shouldn’t the menu entry itself say so if that’s the intention? Also, I think it’s strange that you get this option in any track menu, regardless if it’s a parameter track or not. I hope it’s just a mixup. 🙂

    The “apply track height” command is just a rename of the old menu. It was a bug that the menu always affected parameter lanes.

    – “Show send controls” help only reads “shows send dials”, whereas the options for gain and pan read “faders/dials.”
    – “Show source selectors” help reads “shows parameter selectors.” (?)

    Fixed.

    If 2.23 is finished, it’d be great if you could take a look at the real-time bounce issue mentioned here: http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15899#15899. With beta 12 and the new signal chain layout it seems Ctrl-H is gone, and so it’s become impossible to unhide effect tracks so you can insert an empty event to record in manually. 🙁

    I have a link to that post, and I’ll get back to that eventually. Probably not going to make it into 2.23. As a consequence, in beta14 I have put the “Hide track lane” option back into the selector menus. Eventually I’ll remove the hide track lane option entirely, but only once I get the realtime bounce mended, and fixed some issues with track copy/paste.

    #16840
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Btw. I’ve modified the default track coloring slightly in the new beta14, and specified a new default track color. Let me know if the new default colors present problems.

    I only did a quick test – is it correct that default track color is not applied to colorless tracks anymore when you save a project? That’s the reason I never used it in the first place, as it quickly became a mess, but it looks like it has been fixed already somewhere along the way…?

    There’s also a little extra space on the right side of the track headers, even when you disable vertical meters and the color bar. It’s more apparent now with the selection frame – it looks a bit strange that it doesn’t cover the whole header.

    You mean the space for the horizontal drag bar? Clicking this will not select the track, so I think it would be wrong to extend the focus frame onto this bar.

    Ah! Since it so distinctly looks like part of the track I assumed it was separate from the drag-handle. You’re right I never tried to select a track there.

    If 2.23 is finished, it’d be great if you could take a look at the real-time bounce issue mentioned here: http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15899#15899. With beta 12 and the new signal chain layout it seems Ctrl-H is gone, and so it’s become impossible to unhide effect tracks so you can insert an empty event to record in manually.

    I have a link to that post, and I’ll get back to that eventually. Probably not going to make it into 2.23. As a consequence, in beta14 I have put the “Hide track lane” option back into the selector menus. Eventually I’ll remove the hide track lane option entirely, but only once I get the realtime bounce mended, and fixed some issues with track copy/paste.

    Understood! This is also good since I (and I presume others too) still have a handful of old projects that have lots of unhidden tracks. Now they can at least still be “converted.”

    From what I can tell, these are the problems I’ve found that made it as far as beta 14:
    – Slider value pop-ups become stuck when changing profiles or closing the inspector with shortcut keys.
    – The bypass buttons on the selectors do not update to a newly selected mute color until the UI is refreshed.
    – If you open the mixer and then select a track in the arrangement view, the mixer strip uses the active selection font color instead of the inactive one.
    – Sometimes, the group expand/collapse button will ignore the track color and be colored with the panel background color instead.
    – When you’re dragging a device to a track, the selector button’s pop-up help gets a little in the way as it blocks the view of the chain.
    – When you drag-and-drop an instrument to a track in a particular way, the “drop here” box overlay on the track becomes stuck. You can even ride it up and down using the scroll-wheel. Yee-ha! 😆
    Here’s a GIF animation:

    #16841
    Mike G
    Participant

    Wow 1st time back on actually making music in a long while…
    Podium is looking good.

    On the mixer, i’d like to be able to drag effects from a child channel onto a parent chanel and visa-versa.
    You can drag vst instruments between channels, which in my mind while useful seems less useful that being able to move effects around.

    #16842
    Mike G
    Participant

    More strange things with drag&drop…
    I can drag an FX from devices and add it to the source of a track even through the source button correctly excludes the FX from the list of available plug-ins.
    I can’t drag it straight on to the source button, but I can drag it on to the track’s mixer

    #16843
    Mike G
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    @H-man wrote:

    As mentioned I’d like the state of the inspector and browser to be stored/recalled across tabs as well.

    Please clarify.

    I think this is now fixed, when you resized the inspector it used to store it’s size per view button, now seems to have 1 width setting shared across all view buttons.

    #16844
    Mike G
    Participant

    Just had a crash when bouncing master track and now I can’t open that arrangement without podium crashing.
    Same on 2.22 and 2.23 betas (Hmm maybe this is a support post not a 2.23, feel free to move…
    By the way this is quite an old track from previous v of podium reloaded and with newly created device setup imported

    #16847
    Mike G
    Participant

    When selecting a track in arrangement it slides the track into view in the mixer, which is great.
    However when selecting a track in the mixer it doesn’t slide the track into view in the arrangement… please can it, (Is there some config I need to set, I thought it used to do this… but I could be mistaken)

    #16853
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    @Mike G wrote:

    Just had a crash when bouncing master track and now I can’t open that arrangement without podium crashing.
    Same on 2.22 and 2.23 betas (Hmm maybe this is a support post not a 2.23, feel free to move…
    By the way this is quite an old track from previous v of podium reloaded and with newly created device setup imported

    Ouch! Did it crash during bouncing or after it finished? If it’s the latter, you could try removing the bounced sound from the project before opening the arrangement.
    Maybe make a backup copy first, in case Frits wants to take a look at the crashing project.

    Another 2.23 bug:
    – In the arrangement view, select the very last track and scroll down until it is only partially visible (best to resize it vertically first). This results in the selection frame and the track background disappearing.

    #16856
    UncleAge
    Participant

    @Mike G wrote:

    However when selecting a track in the mixer it doesn’t slide the track into view in the arrangement…

    Wouldn’t this mean that if I was working on a bass track and decided I need to adjust the drum fader in the mixer then the bass track would lose focus?

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