Topic: Preview 2.23: Redesigned group panel

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

To be fair, this is not entirely true, maybe simply due to a bug: If I keep adding effects, at a certain amount the new effect tracks will not be added into the chain correctly. It’s best to try and see for yourself what happens. 😛

You were really bored! 😛

I just mean graphics. Yes, that samplitude mixer is little bit incoherent, but something like that in visual way, you know. Less things, but more professional look. Or something 8)

@kingtubby wrote:

@Malcolm Jacobson wrote:

I don’t understand the need for the Tick button. I like the information about the effect to be shown in the Inspector as soon as I click on the effect name. I don’t like having to click the “Tick” button as well. Can we add an option to hide this button and have the information automatically displayed?

Agreed.

It does look a bit strange somehow. The E buttons functonality was nicely placed inside the effect slot maybe the tick button could have its functionality fused into this same FX slot but on the left perhaps…would be one less button to see in the new GP.

Just right click on it to see the menu.

It might not work but one less button to use would be nice.

Or even better…

@LiquidProj3ct wrote:

Also I’d like to add that right click on effect/instrument slot would be more polished that the menu button. On a empty slot it should show the same instrument/effects menu that left click. And woooooaaaa another button less = better experience for the user.

Maybe combined with this idea here…

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Is there anything assigned to right-clicking it, other than selecting the track? You could use it to bring up the replace/unassign device menu, otherwise people who don’t like keyboard shortcuts may have a hard time with it

I hit the 30 effect limit sometimes! With old plugins that don’t support latency comprensation, sometimes I have to add dummy plugins that are 100% dry so that the phase between different layers stays the same… With complex layering, over half of the plugins end up being dummy plugins that I use just to maintain phase…

@xis23 wrote:

I hit the 30 effect limit sometimes! …

Sounds like a messy way of working, if you don’t mind me saying so. Maybe less is more? No offence, but it probably would not hurt to learn some “oldschool-basics” of how really trained audio engineers used to do things.
Equalizer, reverb, chorus, flanger, delay/cross delay, limiter/compressor and maybe some amp/cabinet/tube emulation and a filter bank is all one really needs and only used sparingly, not all at once.

Hehe well maybe it’s a bit less than 30 but I did used to hit the limit in old versions of podium and having to start sending to a new chain!!! In theory, yeah I could use something like voxengo sound delay, but I don’t know the exact latency of the plugins I am using….. Most of my contemporaries in DnB tend to resample and reapply FX that way, but I prefer the control, and find particularly with making basses that I have to look at it holistically. Also, In particular with drum busses for processing breaks, if you get different layers of a drum hit out of phase with each other you start getting loads of destructive interference which weakens the sounds of the final result as the waves from the different layers start summing towards zero in places (and sounding hollow) when you mix them. But yeah, my method of production probably IS a little crazy lol… My actual mixdown/song template busses are a lot more simple, I mainly just use these crazy chains for processing up individual sounds.

Yup, quite easily… Some top producers resample specific sounds around 5 or 6 times, noisia being one such example… If you can imagine the sample going through 2 or 3 effects every time it’s quite easy to imagine it going through about 15 effects by the times it’s done…. Only difference is I do it all in one cycle instead of resampling (and maybe don’t get quite as nice sounds as noisia out lol)…

Here is my old drum template for processing breaks (cleaning, compressing etc), mainly old funk breaks into more modern harder hitting drums, it doesn’t hit 15 but comes close – 13 I think ( I have a bass template that does but I don’t wish to give away the secret!)….. I do parallel distortion, parallel compression, and waveshaping around particular resonant harmonics (I do this with ephonic lofi in my newer template). I anaylse at several points to see how the frequencies are effected post processing and it would be a pain to keep adding and removing Span instances. I also reshape the volume envelopes (kinda like manual expansion) around particular frequency layers so that different frequencies hit at different times – for creating snap/splash/crack etc – whatever you want out of a snare or drum hit. I colour code the various parts of the template so that I can become more familiar with what is where in my template, and try and learn the templates structure inside out….

Sure I could use more sends? But then wouldn’t that just make things more complicated and messy then being able to just look from bottom to top, right to left, to see what my chains look like.

The type of music I make is kinda highly fetishisist in terms of trying to create hyperreal sounds that aren’t neccessarily natural, but sort of have a concentrated saturated essence of what actually makes that particular sound.

My new drums can be heard in the following works in progress: , http://www.xis23.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nettle2.mp3 , http://www.xis23.com/3rdnew2.mp3 , http://www.xis23..blueyonder.pwp.co.uk/mod.mp3

Hopefully as I learn my templates inside out I should get better…

Don’t get me wrong, I resample as well! But say for instance I want to effect different frequency layers in a sample, it’s impossible for me to maintain phase relationship by bouncing say 3 versions of the same sample low/mid/high passed then stick these back together again…. The only thing you can do is process and recombine in one go with the splitting happening in real time through the same chain of fx.