acousmodAbsolutely perfect !!! For me it is better.
Thanks a lot Frits 😛
I think that even if it is not a visible feature, all users will benefit from it one day or another.
And like Conquistador could say (?) “it is the open door to a right click option for direct editing in another app”. Later…
acousmodFrits, I am very sorry to ask one more time for this, but I am REALLY tired of having to quit Podium each time that I need to edit a file in SoundForge or simply playing a file on the desktop, and re-open the ditors, show the plugins etc.
At the end of the day, it becomes extremely painful.
So, if it is not too hard to add an option to “release the audio driver when the engine is turned off” I will be very grateful…
Thanks ! 😳
acousmodStill more audio features.
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
acousmodQuote:
– the need for the graphic to follow the real sound amplitude is now even more important !I first saw something like that in Samplitude I think.
Yes, ten years ago if I remember well 😉
Now you can see that in all the softwares that can do fades and crossfades… even Audacity !
The reason that Frits has involved for not doing it, is that it would slow down the engine (during playing or editing ???, how many percents ?).
As usual, an option in the Preferences box will be the solution : the user decides what is good for him…
acousmodIf you have resized the events or edited the crossfade times, you can use the crossfade command to restore the crossfade times to the overlapped section.
Oh, OK. It was not obvious…
Perhaps that it could be named “restore crossfade length” ?
acousmodDragging sound events onto other sound events will set up crossfades on the overlapping sections.
Good !!!
A few things concerning this first implementation :
– we need now an option, or better a tool button, to activate or not the automatic crossfade feature
– if we drag on of the clip that overlap so that they overlap no more, the fades remains on the clips. If this is made on purpose we must have an option to force the cossfade to not remain on the clip (sorry for my bad explaination, I hope that you will understand…)
– the crossfade cannot be edited by itself and needs to open the fade editor for each clip : there must be a single crossfade editor
– the need for the graphic to follow the real sound amplitude is now even more important !
Added “Crossfade” command to the edit menu. It is available when two or more selected sound events overlap.
Sorry, I don’t understand. When sound overlap there is already a crossfade.
Dragging events in the arrangement, piano roll, drum map and curve editors will show a translucent image of the dragged events. This makes it easier to e.g. align waveform peaks on the timeline when moving sound events.
Nice and very useful !
Thanks.
acousmodTrack events and note events can be muted. The mute state is toggled with the “Mute Events” and “Unmute Events” commands available in the edit menu and the event context menu.
Thanks !
By the way (#1) : while you are working on the event attributes, could you implement the Lock Event feature too ?
It was (for me), together with the Mute Event and Group Events, one of the essential features for editing.
Mute is now available, Group is perhaps more difficult to program, Lock could already help a lot…
Splitting a sound event will set the fade-in/out times at the split point to zero.
Perfect. 🙂
And by the way (#2), a little splitting story :
JM : Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:48 pm
I’ve searched, I’ve searched, and didn’t found the shortcut for splitting a sequence at the play position ???F : Ok, thanks. I’ll add it to the plan.
JM : Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:45 pm
Any chance that you could spend some time implementing this in a not so long future ?…F : I have a lot of minor issues on my notepad, as well as the disk-streaming issue, so remind me about this again in a month or so.
JM : Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:40 am
Is it time now ?F : Not quite there yet. Currently my focus is to complete the transition from the project wizard to the project start page. After that I’ll get rid of the project wizard to avoid confusion.
Any chance for 1.7x ?
acousmodPostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:22 am
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Mute Event, with a right clic/menu or a shortcut (I can Mute a whole track, but how to mute only some events ?)Not supported. I’ll add it to the plan.
Very happy to see it now !
Thanks.
acousmodPlease email me your project file.
Done.
I’ve tried on another computer with another project : same behaviour.
If the fade out starts immediately after the fade-in you would not be able to double-click to open the sound editor.
So an option in the Preferences could make happy people who make a fade out just after the fade in and who want to edit the event with a double click rather than pressing Enter or right clicking… 😉
acousmodCtrl+L to get the list window, click on the arrangement to expand it, select the part, drag into the new arrangement…
Not really…
In this way you copy the file, not the event (without speaking of a multiple selection which keeps the relative positions of the events of course !).
Or perhaps that I have not understood. Can you explain ?
acousmodDouble-clicking the fade in/out handles or the gain bar will open the Event Fade Properties dialog with focus set to the corresponding value edit field.
I like the simplicity of the double click to open the fade editor, but it would be even more easy and intuitive to be able to double click directly on the fade zone instead of only the little handles.
If we double click somewhere between the fades it is the sound editor window, and if we click inside a fade it is the fade editor which opens.
Can you please add that little middle button between up and down arrow buttons, you can click on it and then just drag mouse up or down to increase/decrease the number?
Yesssss.
Or just allow to clic and drag the numeric value to change it (the Logic audio way…) ?
acousmodCurrently when splitting an event, the two new events are assigned the same fade-in/out settings as the original event. Would you prefer that a split should always set fade-in/out to zero, or would you want the possibility to define the default fade times for splitting?
For me a zero fade will be good, but an option to set a default value can perhaps be useful.
Do you have any tempo changes on the timeline?
Absolutely not.
Cannot you reproduce it ?
The fade curve or the vertical fade-in/out handle lines?
The fade curves and the horizontal line.
Even when the waveform will reflect the sound amplitude, it is important to know at a glance if it is the original amplitude or if it is due to an event setting.
Like Max says, it would be nice if it is a global option.
I have not done this, because I think it can make it difficult to drag the event. If the event is zoomed in at about 10-20 pixels width, the drag handles will cover the entire area and you will not be able to click at the middle of the event to drag it.
I’ve understood.
But my suggestion was to allow ALSO to drag the vertical lines, not to replace the handles.
In most situations, it is easier to drag the fade than pointing to the little handle. People will use what they prefer.
Would it be sufficient if the waveform within the fade-in/out range is scaled linearly nomatter the shape of the fade curve? If the waveform should reflect the spline fade-in/out it will require a substantial amount of CPU to draw.
I suppose that it can be enough for me. The most important is the overal amplitude. But it will not be very “pro” for Podium…
I don’t know how it is done in the other DAWs. The amplitude always reflects the fade curves and it doesn’t seem to use some special CPU power.
Do you mean that it will use more CPU while editing (which I understand and is not a problem) or while playing (which would be strange and annoying) ?
acousmodDo the hosts you mention have a ‘focus track’ feature? If you select multiple events on multiple tracks, do all the tracks then get selected?
Only the last one. Thus if you click on four events which are in four different tracks, each track is selected one by one.
When the events are lasso selected no new track is selected.
if you use the MIDI input focus track option the instrument played may change. Not always desirable if you have selected an instrument track for monitoring, and want to adjust events on other tracks.
Do you think that people often make copy / paste of events while monitoring a MIDI track (while playing keyboard) ?
If it is an option, everybody will be happy 🙂
Myself, I drag’n’drop with the key modifiers.. very simple and straight fwd..
Me too…
But it is hard to do when you have to put the new events far from the previous ones, and when the arrange window doesn’t scroll when the mouse is at the edge.
Also between arrangements, there is actually no drag’n drop possibility. 😥
acousmodVery nice for the first fade version ! The dream becomes true 😉
There is a little problem when splitting an event which has some fades settings : the begining of the second part have the same fades as the first part and the end of the firts one the same as the second one.
It is a really annoying behaviour…
Perhaps is this made on purpose ?
If you think that it can be useful in some case, could you make it an option please ?
There is also a bug : when I resize an event, the length of the fade out changes !
It is shorter when the event is long and longer when it is short 😯
For example :
– the event is 60 seconds long
– I make a 10 seconds fade out
– I shorten the event to 20 seconds by dragging the right handle
– the fade is longer on the timeline (about 15 seconds)
– the numeric fade value is always 10 seconds but it lasts more
Or try to drag the right handle of an event : the fade out becomes shorter and disapears.
On the other hand, the fade in is stable.
Two small requests :
– can you make the lines visible also when the mouse is not over the events ?
– can you allow to drag also the vertical lines (not only the fade handles), like for the level line ?
A question : the fade edition actually doesn’t allow to draw an “inverse S curve”.
In other words, the top part of the curve cannot be negative, and the bottom part cannot be positive.
It is sometimes useful.
And I suppose that the drawn amplitude will reflect the fades and levels settings in a future version ?
Thank a lot for your great work !
acousmodHi,
To reiterate: If I change it to the way acousmod describes, then you have to select the very first track that has any selected events on it, to paste events to another time location on the same tracks.
If the rule is always the same, I don’t think that it can be a problem :
– click on a clip
– copy
– click on a track
– paste
It is the behaviour in Cubase / Nuendo and doesn’t seem to be so annoying…
But what do you think about an option in the preferences to automatically select the track when selecting a clip ?
It is what happends in Samplitude and others : when you click on a clip, its track is selected and if you paste at another position, the same track is used.
If you click on another track, the clip is pasted on it.
The way it is done in Tracktion, Vegas or Reaper seems to me extremely clever.
You click on a clip to select it (the track is automaticaly selected) and copy it :
– if you don’t select a track or click somewhere, the clip is pasted after the first one (in Tracktion) or at the cursor position on the same track and then after the previous one (in the others)
– if you select a track, the clip is pasted on this track at the cursor position
– if you click somewhere in the track area the clip is pasted at this position on the corresponding track.
It is hard to make more intuitive to use, and it works the same for multiple selection.