@Me le suono! wrote:
In fact, I too would have expected more enthusiasm and more participation but I realize that even I don’t had much time to devote to Podium. I have so many ideas but little time. π₯
Damn life – for being such a distraction. π
It is a pity the folder sits idle. I was hoping to add other people’s synth designs to my preset collection.
@Me le suono! wrote:
As for the restrictions on plugins, I just say that I started to fiddle around with electronic music ten years ago with a software (Magix MM 3.0, 1997 version!) that had only playing midi sequences and had only distortion, reverb and echo and a single EQ on the master track. Therefore, they must commit only with the automation and the imagination!
A lot has changed in 15 years. No doubt, despite the minimal features of Magix, it still yielded music.
The first bit of computer music I made was with OctaMED.
The ability to write music, without having to play an instrument, or spend lots of money on hardware, blew me away. It was 2 solid days of blissful exploration, if a little clunky and unintuitive.
That’s a great idea Me le suono!
I’m deathly fearful it could turn out to be a one horse race. There’s been no addition to the collaboration folder since its creation. Leaving me to wonder whether the restriction of zPlugins only is a little stifling. For my part, I’ve lost some momentum in writing, so this could spur some action. Deadlines serve as strong motivation.
Our SoundCloud Group could be the ideal venue. The ♥ Save to Favourites button would serve as an accurate vote counter. It’s just a shame entries can’t be organised into sets. That option is not available for SoundCloud groups π₯
Alternatively we could use this Google Page.
I am mindful of Google’s policy on contests and promotions. But if there are no prizes other than accolades awarded and we claim to use the page like a community noticeboard, I think we’ll come off as harmless hobbyists/enthusiasts.
So to recap:
p.s. I can add you as page manager, Me le suono! I just need your email address to send an invite. pm it to me if you like 8)
@The Telenator wrote:
I wanted to mention, also — that was a totally professional job you did on alex’s “Podium Mixer” thread. The illustration was very clear.
Sweet! π
(I’m good at fielding the easy questions)
@On this thread The Telenator wrote:
Open Up the Quarantine text file, delete the rejected plugin, Save the .txt file, close it, and load the plugin again afterward.
So glad to know this! Up ’till now I’ve been uninstalling/deleting plugins that make it to that list. Including ones that have worked in Podium previously. Thanks Telenator π
For my part, your assumption is true. I haven’t used Melodyne. Mum always warned me off dabbling with black magic. The power to isolate and manipulate parts within audio is the work of the devil π
Although it hardly gets used, I have Newtone (accessible through FL VSTi), and other granular synth/samplers for such duties.
Recently I heard of Vielklang, a cheaper alternative to Melodyne. Edits sound quite convincing! Though I haven’t had a play with it either.
@Regarding the mixer, alex wrote:
Unlimited, or at least some reasonable number of sends.
Podium supports a total of 100 bus instances, and each bus supports up to 32 audio channels. I imagine those numbers to be sufficient to emulate a symphonic orchestra!
Juggling the numbers roughly, you could have 100 audio channels feeding into 3 sets of 30 busses. Each set of busses could be identical. Meaning 100 audio tracks get the same effect treatments.
Throw bank and patch select midi messages and you’ve got exponential possibilities. Mind you, I’ve never added a soundtrack to a 90 minute film. To get the score, sound effects and dialogue into one Podium project might outdo its capacity. But where there’s a willβ¦
@alex wrote:
I have a problem with Nucleum. Do you load it just like any other plugin? I tried to load it, and it didn’t show up, and another folder of plugins ended in quarantine. Than I removed Nucleum and was able to load plugins back.
That is peculiar behaviour. :-k
Once you download and unzip Nucleum to your VstPlugins directory, it should load in your host like any other VSTi.
Download and open this project and select Search for Missing Plugins in the Devices – I/O, Busses, Plugins menu on the Project Start Page. Hopefully you’ll be able to access Nucleum, otherwise Frits might have to offer some guidance.
Addenda: Use this project for Podium Free compatibility.
Can you list the plugins that are quarantined when you import Nucleum?
@alex wrote:
…… Zcomp and Zdelay…..that would fulfill the list of bread and butter plugins in Podiumβ¦
Ooo yeah. I bet Frits’ take on those would come with a nifty twist.
@alex wrote:
I found zEffects in program files>Zinewave>vstplugins
Oops, my bad. π³
@alex wrote:
I actually don’t know what Nucleum is (or where to find it).
This is where you’ll find the Nucleum plugin and this is the forum for all things Nucluem. It’s a 3 oscillator FM/subtractive synth, with 2 filters (series or parallel), 2 LFOs, chorus, delay and modulation matrix π
Keep an eye on Podium’s CPU monitor when creating patches for Nucleum. She can be ravenous for resources.
@alex wrote:
I still rely on software that I already know and use for quite some time.
You can load zPlugins (zPitch, zPEQ, zReverb and Nucleum) in any VST compatible host. The *.dll files are installed to β¦/(your vstplugins directory)/Zynewave Effects
@alex wrote:
β¦ and asking around about the things I can’t figure out (I’m too lazy to read the guide).
I too am guilty of asking questions that have answers in the guide π
Podium’s built in help system is very useful:
@alex wrote:
I actually checked zPEQβ¦ “How can anybody make an eq with no pass filters, for mixing?”
β¦ Anyway, as I read what you had written about zReverb I loaded Zeffects again and saw that the zPEQ was a full featured eqβ¦
About zPEQ:
Right click a band handle to access a menu with these options.
I have no idea what that last one means. π³ Can someone explain it to me?
Finally, don’t be shy of the Podium Guide.pdf (Help > Open Podium Guide). It’s bookmarked so you can navigate directly to the section of interest 8)
@alex wrote:
Hi, and tnx one more time.
You’re welcome π
I too am learning things while thinking about your questions.
@alex wrote:
β¦ I make two buses with mono reverbs, one short, one longer, different predelayβ¦
That method is great! Doing it numerous times, and subtly, will yield increasingly realistic sounding reverberant spaces. (I suspect). Differing pre-delay times combined with different reflection levels will add to the illusion of a sound source in a complex space.
To that end, may I suggest you check out zReverb!? It installs with Podium.
The feature of note is being able to place sound sources and a ‘microphone’ anywhere on its sound stage. There are 2 nodes as sound source. One node is left and the other is right. You can place them anywhere relative to the microphone, which itself can be placed and pointed freely. The outcome is variation between each channel in the output.
Try the plugin and tell me what you think. I’d like to know if it gives you similar results as setting up multiple reverbed sends.
Happy sequencing 8)
@alex wrote:
β¦ (if you have lets say 5 tracks you want to send to a reverb bus and pan reverb differently than the sources, you can’t do it with the single pan knob on return).
Why not? Place the send bus on a group track.
In the example above, the master output is dry at left and reverbed at right. Note the placement of the fader (post-sends). Right-click the track header > Fader > Set Fader After Sends.
@alex wrote:
Think about stereo guitars – if you only got one guitar track (mono) you can push it thru the stereo amp and now you have two more tracksβ¦
The example above is a mono sound file on a stereo track. That’s 1 track for stereo output of a mono sound file.
@alex wrote:
I mentioned precount because it is really funny that the daw like Podium doesn’t have it (I’m sure everybody can live without it).
I faithfully believe precount will be implemented as it would benefit live takes. And complete functionality of the metronome π
@alex wrote:
tnx and cheers
It’s a pleasure π
Hello alex,
Here are ways to achieve what you want. (Until your requests are implemented).
@alex wrote:
Pan knob on sends
Intriguing proposition. :-k
You have a couple of options to realise this:
Unfortunately, this one doesn’t!?
@alex wrote:
Two pan knobs for stereo tracks
Can you describe a scenario where this would be useful?
Are you after control of [url=http://www.kvraudio.com/q.php?search=1&q=stereo&ty[]stereo separation[/url]?
@alex wrote:
Precount (somebody has already mentioned this before)
If you need a lead in for a recording, may I suggest setting a loop range and offset Punch-In.
Key command U to toggle metronome.
@alex wrote:
β¦ I’d like to know what the other users think of it (and maybe the developer π ).
I love the way Frits (the developer) thinks. It’s as if he has pre-empted what comes naturally to my work flow. π
Also, check out Track Templates.
@Me le suono! wrote:
The database plugins management is a bit complicated.
Me le suono is right. But when understood is a powerful management system. Mostly because plugin data is saved with the project. This means you can load projects even if assigned plugins aren’t installed.
I highly recommend creating a template project, customize it, and load its plugin database when starting a new project.
The following is a little complicated. Don’t worry if it eludes you. It’s not essential but may be useful if you want detailed control over your projects π
Mirroring the Project Browser is Folder Pages.
Once you hit the button, you will enter Folder Pages view. Double-clicking an arrangement object opens the arrangement. Double-clicking folder objects navigates into that folder.
Within the Devices folder object are all the plugins, their presets and parameters.
Navigate into the Library folder of plugins and import individual patches (*.fxp) or banks (*.fxb). Doing this in a template project will give you one repository for all your presets π
The function you want is in the preset panel. New Program Library Preset (Ctrl+P) will create a preset for the selected device (with all its settings). You can then assign the preset to another instance of the same plugin on other tracks.
Further information on presets here.
Again, please don’t be discouraged if this has been information overload. I hope it helps π
Alt+Click Solo buttons to ‘arm solo’.
Soloing another track will activate solo on ‘solo armed’ tracks.
The same applies for the track record buttons. ‘Record arm’ multiple tracks to record takes from multiple inputs, or record one MIDI performance to multiple tracks (e.g. instant layering of VST synths).
Global Solo/Mute/Record buttons on the track toolbar toggles activation but maintains ‘arm’ state.
@The Telenator wrote:
I was actually doing rather better with Podium before I decided I ought to read the Guide, yet after each attempt I usually had a headache and was left confused as to what exactly was being discussed.
@adimatis wrote:
Maybe with a new updated release there will be completed manual, updated and comprehensive.
Frits has recently ported the manual to another domain and has called for editors. His request is limited to licensed users, to avoid vandalism I’m guessing. You’ll find the thread in the V.I.P. Lounge for info on how to volunteer. I presume it will be added to the Podium installer at each release.
Frits had called for co-authors to the guide in this site’s Wiki. Soon after he did the guide became much more comprehensive. I believe there is an entry for all features.
@adimatis wrote:
β¦ making possible things like time-stretching, mp3, etc.
While waiting for that, not much to say. Unfortunatelly, even working with Podium is affected. I discovered it is a psychological effect β I tend to see more and more the bad parts or things I cannot do, rather than trying workarounds as before, so Podium stays unused most of the time.
I’ve been here 3 years and in that time Podium’s restrictions continue to melt away. Some releases profoundly extending its capabilities.
Podium has its own paradigm, therefore its own vernacular and limitations. This doesn’t mean it is determined to exclude time-stretching/mp3 output. Frits has intimated that these technologies are expensive as 3rd party licenses and would rather develop his own. Personally, I like that Podium is all his coding.
Time-stretching is a popular request. It takes time to develop a sample/re-synthesis engine and it’s on his ‘to do’ list. Personally, I don’t regard it crucial to qualifying Podium as DAW. At the same time Adimatis’ frustrations are familiar. There are times I wish to execute certain processes on audio only to think, “This could be achieve much quicker and easier in ‘software X‘”. Then I persist to reach the desired outcome or abandon the awkward, ‘flow killing’ work for another idea.
So feel free to pm Fritz your interest in consolidating the guide and picture the joyous day your requests appear in the Releases thread π