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Hi,

Are you trying to bounce record in realtime, or bounce render offline?

Do you have any Jamstix MIDI tracks in addition to the four stereo outs?

You can get Podium to record the MIDI output of a plugin by enabling the “Enable recording of VST plugin MIDI output” option in preferences. This option is off by default, because some plugins will send MIDI input thru to the output, causing duplicate notes when recording over an existing sequence.

@tumult wrote:

Would it be possible to associate events to markers, so that when I click a marker, it automatically selects some events in the timeline?

You can do that already with the bundle events command. Select all events you want linked (you can include the marker event if you like), and then “Bundle events” (Ctrl+N). Dragging any of the events in the bundle will then drag all the bundled events, and you can use the copy drag to create phantom copies. The dropped copy will become a new bundle. Use Ctrl+N again to unbundle events.

The bundling feature also allows you to create separate bundles for handling synths and drums, as in your example. Each event can only be included in a single bundle though, so the marker event cannot be included in more than one bundle.

To further explain the idea with marker linking:
Say you have 4 copies of a 4-bar section, each with a marker event at the start. You can link the 4 marker events to sync the 4-bar patterns. You could however instead link only the first and third marker, and by doing so sync two 8-bar sections. In other words, the length of the synced sections are not determined by the distance between markers, but the minimum distance between linked markers.

Thanks for the input, tumult.

@tumult wrote:

In Logic, I can put the entire chorus (even though it’s made up of multiple clips across multiple, unrelated tracks) inside of a single clip, except for the one part that will be different between the two copies, the drum fill. So picture this: the entire chorus inside of one clip, and the two drum fills that are different outside of that clip in their own separate clip. Now I can make a phantom copy of the entire chorus, except for the drum fill, which is exactly what I want.

Does that make sense? It’s kind of hard to explain with words.

I think I understand. Basically you want a phantom copy feature for a selection of track events within a section of the timeline.

As I understand it: The feature you talk about here, does not actually reduce the number of tracks needed in the arrangement. Instead it requires an additional track for placing the folder clips/events that will be the link to the other layer of clips. It is not a tool to play layered sequences, as overlapping sequences will cut out each other. It is an organizational tool for syncing the arrangement of clips within a section on the timeline, and having changes made in one section appear automatically in phantom sections.

About the track overview: If your composition style involves having hundreds of tracks that each contain microscopic components, then I think the Podium track tags and nestable group tracks are a helpful tool for keeping an overview of the tracks.

To make something like this fit into the Podium track structure, I would experiment with extending the use of marker events, instead of adding a new folder event type. I could add a feature to link marker events together, so that any edits made within one marker section will automatically be replicated in the other linked marker sections. For example: If you have four repeated sections, each divided with a marker at the start of the section, you’d select all four markers, use the link command (button or menu), and then any edits to a section that is identical in the other sections, will be replicated. This means edits to phantom sequence events (the actual sequence event and not just the contents of the phantom sequence) or adding new events will be replicated. Changes made to unique events that are not part of the other sections will not be replicated. That should allow you to make synced edits to section repetitions, while still having unique fills in the individual sections that will not be affected by the edits.

That could actually work quite well, I think :-k . And it would not require changes to the Podium engine in any way. This is entirely a UI tool for managing repeated patterns on the timeline.

@Trancit wrote:

Couldn´t you implement something like this, I personally think, that would be very helpfull, especially sending midifile data to the selected track…

As I wrote in my reply further up this page, the auto-audition option is a good idea and will likely appear in the near future. Auditioning MIDI files is also something that I will implement later on. There already is an option for syncing audio file audition to bar starts during playback, so that will also apply to MIDI files.