..to be fair, ‘Continue this sentence with three words’ is in the Off Topic forum..
If you go to any of the other KvR forums – Instruments, Hosts, Effects, etc. you’ll find plenty of intelligent conversation. If you view it as an online pub, with allsorts of people making comments, you’ll be fine; if you expect it to be anything else, then yes you may be disappointed.
Podium is known by many of the more established members, and over the years has gained a great deal of respect, especially for the automation curves.. however, for various reasons, it hasn’t taken off in the same way as it ought to have, but that’s not to say it isn’t known. Computer Music featured it on its cover disc for a while..
You may notice that the first review was by me..!
It’s worth persevering with KvR, you learn whom to take with a pinch of salt, and who’s worth listening to. Overall, I’ve found it far better than most company forums or places like Recording.org, gearslutz, etc. which are heavily moderated, keeping everything rigidly ontopic and creating a fairly stale atmosphere. However, whilst they may be bereft of fluff, the opinions expressed can be frightening.. If you think KvR has headstrong people, you clearly haven’t wandered the other audio forums around!
But the general thesis of ‘talk about Podium’ is certainly not a bad one. I’ll mention it when I wander the Hosts forum, etc. These days though, I’m most in OffTopc and the DSP Dev forum..
I’d find it useful to be able to use more than one audio interface, for those times when recording a full band and have a couple of desks, etc. or when on location and find that one small i/f isn’t enough, but using someone else’s as well could give the necessary inputs/tracks.
Any chance of this happening? 🙂
well, after all that it was a Betabugs plugin, SpinBug. It’s the only song I use it on! I reinstalled it, and all appears to work as it should do now.
Sorry about that, and thank you for bearing with me!
successively removing VSTs was my next avenue.
Must confess, not tried v3.x yet, I’m in the middle of a large project and was going to wait until it’s finished in about a month’s time.. Have there been non-backwards compaitble changes in the pod structure?
ok still not doing it.. An arrangement will return from hourglass if there’s no driver loaded. When I assign a driver in setup if have the option to remap the devices.
If I choose yes, the arrangement closes, and on reloading there’s no return from the hourglass.
If I choose no, the arrangement works fine – business as usual for a normal Podium session.
The file I sent has been cleaned up, right busses, duplicated devices gone, just the minimal folders.
I tried a clean project and merging the cleaned pod. Same thing (only without multiple device mappings!)
If I save all changes, it saves fine. If I quit when there are unsaved changes, it hangs if I press No.
I’ll PM you again with the better file. Again, this is the only project file I have that does this.
I can work with the roundabout way of delayed loading of audio, but getting things ‘right’ would be nicer!
no worries, I’m almost done on remapping it 🙂
if it still doesn’t open, they’ll be questions 😉
thanks for that
I’ve tried what you said, but with the merge I get the multiple Device folders turning up again. Pre-merge, all is stripped down how I want it; post-merge all the devices from the imported file are there.
Is there a way of telling what is mapped to what? I’d like to delete those folders so I have a single device tree, but I’m worried about losing things that are mapped and the settings with them. If there are multiple mappings to the same VST dll, do these all count as a single (but replicated) mapping, or is each node treated as an individual entity, so deleting it removes all trace from a project?
I fear it’s the latter so I’ll have to save fxbs of current settings, remap to the devices first in the VST tree, import the fxb, then delete the unwanted nodes.. would I be right in that assumption?
This is somewhere it could be handy to have a tick next to the item selected when the menu is open.. having said that, most of the time you’d know what was selected, as there’d only be one occurance of a device in the tree! [Edit]well, wadderyaknow.. there already is a tick! I’d never noticed!! how very odd :-)[/Edit]
PM sent 🙂
oh yeah! I was using Ctrl+V to no avail!
Thank you 😉
(how silly do I feel!)
that’s fair enough 🙂
I’m using XPSP3 in general, but for my work with GForce I have VMs of W7 x86 & x64 for testing [the Steinberg VSTBridge for running x86 plugins in x64 Cubase is a nightmare, esp on W7!]
I know what the problem is with the MultiMix – the samplerate is ‘fixed’ by the driver either at 44100 or 48000; there is an Alesis control panel applet that sends the control signal to the device/driver to set it. I’ve never needed to look at the initialisation procedures of ASIO, so can’t speak for certain, but can it be initialised passively, as in accept the samplerate it is set at, rather than informing it what to be set at?
I’ll have a poke about with the SDK.. I might write an intermediary driver
Sorry for the delay in getting back – had to ahve my developer hat on for the last week.
Because I always have a number of projects on the go, I don’t update my main machine terribly often, only when there’s something I NEED. So I’ve been running v1.80. I’ve updated and now running 2.38 (for some reason 2.39 wouldn’t download).
1.80 is almost 4 years old :shock:. A lot of things have happened since then. I’d prefer not to backtrack my code changes for 4 years, to try to determine which update may have changed this behaviour.
yeaaahhh… I have been using more recent versions for tinkering on other machines, but I just had a number of incomplete projects, and long times spent between doing music.. and a whole load of excuses, really!
I just tried downloading 2.39 and had no problems. Maybe just try again?
Thank you, yes, I have it now. Must just have been some problem in the ether at the time I was trying to get it.
Does it show the error dialog also when using ASIO4ALL and Wave drivers?
Using raw WDM is a nightmare, but that’s just my laptop.
ASIO4ALL performs better, I don’t get the samplerate error. There’s glitches (even with larger buffers), but of the 16 inputs the MultiMix has, only 8 are exposed by ASIO4ALL.
I’d really like to be able to use Alesis’ driver since it gives me all that the device has to offer.
I have a band session tomorrow, for tracking I’m going to revert to nTrack just to get the wavs and mix later. But I’d like to have everything in Podium. Is there anything I can do to help with this? Debug version, etc?
Also when installing Podium it is not possible to install by using the Run as an Administrator command. Can you please change the installer to reflect this? Any thing to help with compatibility and reliability when installing on Vista /W7 can only help. Thanks.
The installer tool I’m currently using is very basic, so I don’t think I can control this. I’m going to look for alternative installer solutions in the near future. Why do you want to run the installer as administrator?
Have you tried Inno Setup? It can do elevated setups, as I recall. A quick search (like this one) shows it has come up before. I use to use Inno alot and it’s a great tool, and has progressed alot in the last 5 years since I last used it much.