Mike GHow about a nice simple 12 bar blues as a starter? No issues/time delay composing as you just follow std blues pattern.
So we could dive right in and get it all completed quicker.
We can get more adventerous with different projects later on.
What kind of collab are folks interrested in?
A – Using each others performance abilities to record a track each towards a final piece
B – Seeing how other people would arrange (re-arrange) and mix a mostly finished track
C – Writing new tunes together.
I think writing stuff together might be difficult, although I suppose you could throw up an idea and others could rework it etc..
Also we need to bear in mind what plug-ins people are going to have. Sticking mostly to free and zynewave plugins.
Maybe electronic music would be more difficult to collaborate on than acoustic.
Although bouncing to an audio track would help here.
I’m mainly keyboards and am used to doing blues piano and organs etc. Try my hand at guitar but am frankly rubbish. My vocals are not too great (but blues is a very forgiving genre!!) Also these days finding that adding a little dash of blues harmnica is sounding pretty good.
I’d also be interrested in any other genre, I’m really looking for new stuff to try as well.
-Mike G
Mike GHmmm,
Thanks for your post UncleAge.
I’m also struggling for inspiration, there are soooo many styles that sound great and I’m not one who gets hooked on one particular style, I’ve been looking to find what I’d like to record for a year or so now, tried electronic, blues, jazz, rock, tried just recording live instruments, tried applying effects etc.. bottom line is I could do loads of different stuff but I don’t know what I “want” to achieve. Also a related issue is that when I think I want to try some dance hi bpm track I can’t technically get the results that are in my head.
I think I’m interrested in two separate things, music technology and making music. The two are obviously related but also very separate. At the moment I’m trying to puersuade some of my musical freinds to come round and I’ll record their stuff so I can just focus on tech stuff.
Then I can come back later when I’m an “expert” at techy stuff and have a better stab at recording my own stuff (Maybe!!!)
I would love to see some people upload entire podium projects (not just ready mixed down audio files) so I can play at tweaking them and arranging, doing the techy stuff etc…
And I’m sure others would probably say this too, I feel embarrassed at uploading my “experiments” cause they sound awful (my wife tells me they definately stink!!)
Hope that adds to your post.
Cheers,
Mike G
Mike GHi,
I too am getting some issues with v 1.98 (I don’t think I ever got this in previous versions)
The issue is that podium pegs cpu usage (as seen from Task mgr) at 50% (i.e. 100% of one of my cores) so I have to end task podium and lose my work.
I’ve had it happen a few times on the run now and never had it happen before v 1.98.
But… I haven’t yet found out exactly what I was doing in UI that made it break because I can’t consistently repeat it. As far as I can remember it happens when I am dragging tracks around while Podium is running.
Is there anything else I can do to help you identify this?
Ohh yes, I’m running vista and a dual core dell precision laptop, plugins present in the project were…
zReverb, zPEQ, DSK Mini DrumZ, DSK Harmonia, Kjaerhus Audio classic flanger, Voxego SPAN, Martin Eastwood Compressive CM, Linplug Alpha 3, Lallapllooza lite v2.
Thanks,
Mike G
Mike GTried midi files with 0 length hits in the same drum machine in another daw (Ableton) and the behaviour is the same as Podium, I can’t find my old Cubase LE disk so I’ll have to assume I was wrong about the daw making the 0 midi note lengths work for the drum machine plug in.
Thanks,
Mike G
Mike GI have an idea that I think is related to this.
Could the [E] button to open the plug-in screen be bigger and be a different colour as it is a v important button (As indicated by previous posts)
As much as I like the tone-on-tone all grey design of podium a little judicious use of colour I feel would help me out no end, I always spend a “noticable” second looking for the [E] button. Maybe something like have the E (Not the button just the text) in green (Or whatever the plug-in editor colour is set to in colors box) when not enabled.
Double click is also a good idea as far as I’m concerned.
Cheers,
Mike G
Mike GThanks folks for prompt feedback.
I think I’ll buy a controller with the gadgets anyway as price not that different and I guess if podium does support them in future I’ll only kick myself!!
Mike GThanks for the info,
Mike G
Mike GHi
Have been using the Cm version for ages and loved it
So thought I’d give some payback becuase I’ve had so much use and I want to get the updates etc.
Cheers,
Mike
Mike GJust for record it seems that is was the antivirus, i’ve been using it for ages now with no spikes whatever.
Though I did also stop a load of extra services that were running too. (Sql server, IIS, etc.)
I have a batch (.bat) file I run with a load of net stop commands, just thought I’d attach it in case others thought this might help them get more perf not really sure how useful it is though!
REM This stops unneeded programs (You will most likely have different programs)
taskkill /IM Outlook.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM TimeSnapper.exe /f
taskkill /IM QuickSet.exe /f
taskkill /IM procexp.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM jusched.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM DVDLauncher.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM realsched.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM phonelist.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM MSAccess.exe /f /t
taskkill /IM cropper.exe /f /t
net stop eventsystem
REM Remember to stop “On Access scanner”
pause
Mike GDo the spikes occur less frequently, if you increase the latency/buffer size?
Not easy to tell maybe a bit but stll seems random
Do the spikes occur more often if you move the mouse or press any keys?
No not that I can tell
I’ve had McAfee On access statistics window open and guess what…
Everytime a spike occured On Access scanner changed it’s last file scanned and upped it’s total number of files scanned.
I have a very string feeling that this is the cause. (I will confirm when i’ve has a word with work and see if I can turn on access scanner off, I use my work laptop becuase it’s more powerful that my other machine)
After you have had a few spikes, go to the report page in the interfaces dialog, and save a report. Paste the report here or email it to me.
OK…
Loads of reports here just so you can get a good feel for it
Minor note once seemed to get a load of audio glitches but nothing reporting in even though the report start/end included the time when it would have happened!!
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:18:04 – 01/05/2007 20:24:00
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (111100)
– Output channels: 8 (11000000)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 160/160, 136
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
ASIO driver status:
– ASIO reset requests: 4
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 10
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:40:01 – 01/05/2007 20:43:10
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (101000)
– Output channels: 8 (11000000)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 160/160, 136
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 2
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:43:59 – 01/05/2007 20:47:30
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (101000)
– Output channels: 8 (11000000)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 160/160, 136
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 2
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 19:59:28 – 01/05/2007 20:07:39
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (111111)
– Output channels: 8 (11111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 200/200, 176
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 9
– CPU overload count: 3
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:48:43 – 01/05/2007 20:51:46
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (101000)
– Output channels: 8 (11000000)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 288/288, 264
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:08:54 – 01/05/2007 20:13:08
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (111111)
– Output channels: 8 (11111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 824/824, 800
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 1
End of report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/05/2007 20:25:07 – 01/05/2007 20:33:31
ASIO device: PreSonus ASIO Driver (FireBox)
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 44100
– Current sample rate: 44100
– Input channels: 6 (111111)
– Output channels: 8 (11111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 1128/1128, 1104
– PerformanceCounter: 3579545 Hz
– ASIO sample types: 18, 18
Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 1
End of report
Mike GHi,
Yes am using latest presonus asio drivers
Tried dropping latency in drivers down to 4ms.
Seemed to make no difference on spikes or on avg of CPU monitor (40-50% avg in proj I am testing with now with lots of reverb etc.)
Still get dropouts even with minimal tracks unmuted and avg cpu of 20-30%
Also forgot to mention am using 44.1 khz sample rate.
Just now I had sysinternals process explorer running now and it made tons of spikes appear, but I don’t usually run this only running it now to see what’s going on.
(BTW Podium is running at 30% of my machines CPU)
Podium seems to be using both by CPU graphs.
BTW: Are onaccess virus scanners known to cause issues?
Spikes do not seem ro be regular intervals usually.
When using processexplorer I get regular spikes but obviously this isn’t a problem I don’t run process explorer or task mgr usually when running podium.
Oh yeah have tries multiporcessing flag before because of seing it on a previous post but again seemed to make no difference.
Mike GHi,
I too have Podium 1.77 (CM edition)
Have previously used cusbase LE but podium is far superior UI wise and I love it.
But…
Podium keeps dropping out audio, and CPU spikes (which make my cpu monitor go red in podium)
I have a presonus firebox with latency of 10ms and still I get dropouts.
With cubse I had latency set on my firebox to 4 ms and never any dropouts.
Similar to a previous post (that I now cannot find!) the CPU monitor shows very low activity < 10% followed by very large spikes that result in audio going missing.
I have even had CPU spikes with hardly any plug ins loaded.
Is it true that if plug ins are not used in my arrangement then they don’t affect anything I have lots of plig ins in my folder but very few loaded.
My system:
Dell precision m90 laptop, Win XP SP2, dual core intel 2 GHz, 2GB ram, recently defragmented disk with >40 GB free space.
Is this an issue that has been fixed, or just something I can tweak so fix it? Any ideas?
I would buy podium at a snap if I thought this was an issue that has been addressed.